Relic, please adjust Vet gain on the Stuka zu Fuss.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 21:21 PMRomeo

The priest has similar durability to the stuka but horrible mobility.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 21:37 PMSierra

Yes but it also has incredible range and sits often very safe deep behind Allied lines, The Stuka, not as much.

Also economically the Stuka has far more opportunity cost than the Priest does. Especially since OKW cannot build caches to modify income and to convert comes at a great cost of whatever resource is being converted.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 21:51 PMRomeo

Both very valid points, but generally a panther or puma can successfully take out a priest on a flanking attempt a lot more easily than allied medium armor short of T-34/85s, at least in my experience. Smoke or blitz certainly help a lot with this as well.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 21:05 PMRomeo

Again, I could be wrong but I think vet gained is proportional to the ratio of damage inflicted to the inflicting unit's health.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 22:23 PMRomeo

Consider light vehicles though. If a puma makes it to a katyusha, it will destroy it in one shot plus a burst from the coaxial MG. It has a decent chance of escaping unpunished since the allies have little time to react. If a stuart makes it to a stuka, it will have to shoot it four times, I think? Someone should correct me if I'm wrong. It's definitely a lot more than one time. This gives axis supporting units a lot more time to react. The stuka may or may not survive, the stuart almost certainly won't.

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2014, 21:12 PMSierra

If that were true, then wouldn't snipers earn insane vet from killing Shocktroops or Paratroopers? Just a thought in any case.


I looked at your page there, I don't necessarily agree with changing the Stuka's barrage pattern into a circle. It was designed with the intent of a creeping barrage in this game, and I don't see any sense in changing it now. Especially since all strafing runs were changed to be comparable.



Besides that, as I said in an earlier post, it feels like the Stuka was ninja nerfed for its barrage to be less exact along its line and more spread out.


As for its HP, I don't really see what the problem with its HP is, it's an armored halftrack right? It only takes 2-3 shots of a Bazooka or two shots of a tank to kill it. Or One-shot from an ISU-152 right?

In example, it takes at least 2-4 barrages from a Luchs to kill a Katyusha IIRC.


I think it is fair considering the very significant manpower and fuel investment OKW player needs to acquire and use such a potent piece of equipment. Though I guess if vet changes are made it could be considered.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2014, 02:47 AMWhySooSerious

its like the ostheer halftrack

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2014, 03:34 AMspam.r33k

funny thing is: it looks like a modded 250 to me but has the armor of the 251

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2014, 04:23 AMSierra

It's definitely a 251, the 250 had an open back.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2014, 04:24 AMspam.r33k

yeah i got the numbers wrong, didnt I?

edit: i checked and ofc it was the 251 who had the wurfrahmen (as you already mentioned), BUT the 250 had a closed back, too(to protect the soldiers being transported/operating the weaponry)