Shreks need long range accuracy nerf

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2014, 21:11 PMButcher

1) I know what I´m talking about. I´m serious.

2) Pak and Jackson are different... one is a vehicle, the other one an AT gun. I´m confident even you know that. if you want to compare them (which really stretches it) I have to see a Pak driving off at the speed of a Jackson until I believe your statement.

3) Paks haven´t proven effective since the latest patch. I hardly use them. better invest in Schrecks. It´s ridiculous how people want Schrecks nerfed now. Sounds more to me like Ostheer isn´t allowed to have anti tank at all.

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2014, 23:22 PMJHeartless

You arent using them right. Speed or no Speed both are defensive. One can be killed by a Panther with ease. The other cannot be killed at all by a Jackson and should be guarded by Grens with Fausts.

I am sure that many many more tanks have been killed by Pak guns since WFA then by Jacksons. If you cant use the Pak with its 100% Pen and better than Jackson DPS I dont know what to tell you. Face the pointy end at the tank

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2014, 22:42 PMbraciszek

Whoever says the pak40 is garbage has been spoiled.

It is still the best AT gun.

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2014, 23:28 PMNinjaWJ

just like those people who say current jagdtiger is complete garbage

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 02:34 AMArclyte

MG42s, 8cm mortars, PaKs....

All weapons that will immediately be stolen if I get the chance. I never see my enemy taking ZiS guns or maxims. Those are more useful as salvage apparently.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 05:04 AMWhySooSerious

Best way to nerf shrecks is to make shrecks unaffected by vet. Before units like volks have vet they have ok accuracy and misses long range shots.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 05:31 AMKhan

Schreks (esp on Volks) need an accuracy nerf so that OKW players actually invest in other hard vehicle counters. Right now, Obers counter infantry, Volk blob counters Tanks, and then the KT counters all. Absolute BS.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 02:22 AMAladdin

current jt is complete garbage, considering it price and the commander u have to choose (which limits ur access to other useful units)

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 06:35 AMNinjaWJ

What the hell?? The Breakthrough Doctrine is great

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 07:59 AMAladdin

(JT's performance now depends a lot on the map). Breakthrough is still a good doctrine but that change definitely reduced its value significantly in comparison with other OKW commanders. Anyways, I believe there's another thread for this topic.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 08:25 AMNinjaWJ

That was one of the main problems with the JT. It was good on every single map, even on maps where it should've been at a disadvantage (urban or forested areas). Its ability to ignore shot-blockers made it OP in team games. It behaves more like the Elefant now, potent in certain environments and when supported.

Not all commanders can be equally valuable, although it should be that way. There are doctrines which can be useful in any circumstance and some niche ones that fit certain situations.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2014, 09:24 AMRupert

This is a shrek thread but with JT there is hardly a reason to inveset 430~ish fuel in JT anymore except langres maybe....

Shreks are potent but OKW has no anti-armor that does not wipe in to single sherman HE round that does not spend fuel....

Again, all results of a failed faction design.