JU-87 Strafe shredding tanks.
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I mean instakill. I mean it doesn't miss, ever.
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How does something as completely ridiculous as this manage to slip through?
The answer to this question is quite obvious.
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I'm surprised no one mentioned that the stuka doctrine is overall better than the p47 one, costs less, is much more reliable AND ALSO TARGETS SUPPORT WEAPONS when there are no vehicles.
Also the axis apologists are gardening ridiculous man, the Su-85 was almost destroyed in a single pass with no chance of evading, an exclusively anti tank strafe like the p47 can't even come close to do that when you consider just reversing is enough to avoid it completely.
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Overpowered - maybe.
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I'm surprised no one mentioned that the stuka doctrine is overall better than the p47 one, costs less, is much more reliable AND ALSO TARGETS SUPPORT WEAPONS when there are no vehicles.
Also the axis apologists are gardening ridiculous man, the Su-85 was almost destroyed in a single pass with no chance of evading, an exclusively anti tank strafe like the p47 can't even come close to do that when you consider just reversing is enough to avoid it completely.
Uh, it's really not less expensive at all, it's very fuel heavy if you use conversion. (assuming you're using Close Air Support doctrine.)
The SU-85 would have been flanked by a goddamn tiger to begin with, not to mention that the thing made zero attempts to try and escape after the flares were cast, sticking close to the rear of the IS-2 up until it was hit by the JU-87.
It was bad play on the Allied player's part and the Stuka is just as easily avoided as a P47 Mustang Rocket Launch. If you use it and catch your opponent off guard, it'll work with deadly efficiency. Besides that the P47's can outright kill tanks on single passes. This Stuka left the tanks hit with enough HP to be hit by tigers, panthers, and ATG's at least two or more times before death.
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also the p47 also has almost/very little delay in coming into the map (like most strafes).
and as others have mentioned, if youre having trouble with enemy air support, build the flak ht, AA ht, Quad ht, or the 222/ostwind depending whatever faction you are.
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Permanently Bannedif its that good. make it cost the same as p47 (240muni)
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Permanently Bannedlol. reversing out of p47 doesnt guarantee the rockets will miss. they can still hit, sometimes they miss sometimes they dont. .
Thats completely incorrect
All air abilities have an area of effect
Recon will show a visible green circle
Attack runs will show a Red cirle
If tanks are out of red cirle. Even if the p47 spots them. it WONT fire.
Edit: there is also a way to trick the plane. If u see the direction the plane is attacking from. u can face ur tank twards the p47. revers while blitzing. then sharply turn. More rockets will miss. This only works if one p47 has been shot down. If the planes attack from both sides. then ur out of luck.
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Uh, it's really not less expensive at all, it's very fuel heavy if you use conversion. (assuming you're using Close Air Support doctrine.)
The SU-85 would have been flanked by a goddamn tiger to begin with, not to mention that the thing made zero attempts to try and escape after the flares were cast, sticking close to the rear of the IS-2 up until it was hit by the JU-87.
It was bad play on the Allied player's part and the Stuka is just as easily avoided as a P47 Mustang Rocket Launch. If you use it and catch your opponent off guard, it'll work with deadly efficiency. Besides that the P47's can outright kill tanks on single passes. This Stuka left the tanks hit with enough HP to be hit by tigers, panthers, and ATG's at least two or more times before death.
Lol,
Yeah let's just completely disregard the fact that it doesn't only hit vehicles, easily avoided? Did you even see how the sherman was strafed? No smoke or anything, just the plane coming from outside the map at incredible speed, no visual feedback from the shells exploding just the sherman being shredded, the P47 can't even achieve that sort of damage even when standing still given how only a single rocked will hit at a time.
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the axis apologists
Because clearly, people can't just disagree with your opinion, ooh nooooo.
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Lol,
Yeah let's just completely disregard the fact that it doesn't only hit vehicles, easily avoided? Did you even see how the sherman was strafed? No smoke or anything, just the plane coming from outside the map at incredible speed, no visual feedback from the shells exploding just the sherman being shredded, the P47 can't even achieve that sort of damage even when standing still given how only a single rocked will hit at a time.
Wrong this ability is just slightly weaker then the thunderbolt because it has less splash but for all purposes it functions the same. if the ju is op then so is the thunderbolt.
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Lol,
Yeah let's just completely disregard the fact that it doesn't only hit vehicles, easily avoided? Did you even see how the sherman was strafed? No smoke or anything, just the plane coming from outside the map at incredible speed, no visual feedback from the shells exploding just the sherman being shredded, the P47 can't even achieve that sort of damage even when standing still given how only a single rocked will hit at a time.
Have you considered that the camera simply didn't pan over where the flares were? Or the fact that the Sherman was within the same barrage area that assisted in killing the SU-85 and that the Stuka came around on one of it's 3x passes that allowed for the flares to no longer be on screen?
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To be honest, I'm tired of being "nice" about stuff. When you try to be nice people either shit all over you, try to troll you, or say your "delusional" and brush it off. Reality is that being a dick is the only way to get a point across.
I kinda agree with this.
Back to the point, just like infantry, do not bunch up your tanks (although the strafe area is a bit large). I think smoke screen can block the vision of the aircraft (not 100% on this). This ability is intended to deny a large area to enemy tanks, and it's expensive. Besides, the other player literally drove his Sherman inside the strafe zone. Let's face it, only one of them had 2 tigers, one PAK and and army of vetted LMG grens. Even without that they had a great chance of winning the game. The other enemy player also flanked you with his panther, so I think even without that, they had a good chance of finishing the battle in their favor.
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Thats completely incorrect
All air abilities have an area of effect
Recon will show a visible green circle
Attack runs will show a Red cirle
If tanks are out of red cirle. Even if the p47 spots them. it WONT fire.
Edit: there is also a way to trick the plane. If u see the direction the plane is attacking from. u can face ur tank twards the p47. revers while blitzing. then sharply turn. More rockets will miss. This only works if one p47 has been shot down. If the planes attack from both sides. then ur out of luck.
then how come it still randomly attacks even when you drive to the other side of the map?
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