It's totally fine. It is why you see it in every Soviet replay. (zzzz)
It is obsolete the moment Jadgtiger(or Elephant to a lesser extent) hit the field, that's probably why. At least with Medium Tanks or Jacksons you could Flank.
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It's totally fine. It is why you see it in every Soviet replay. (zzzz)
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It is obsolete the moment Jadgtiger(or Elephant to a lesser extent) hit the field, that's probably why. At least with Medium Tanks or Jacksons you could Flank.
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I think it performs fine. With focuses sight it is still a very formidable tank hunter.
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Secondly the SU85 desperately needs a higher penetration OR higher accuracy. It fails to penetrate both the Tiger and Panther reliably enough to make it worth the cost. It is 100% worthless against infantry (at least the Panther has MGs and speed to crush) - at 12 pop/tank if you build more than one (which you'll have to do) you'll really struggle to achieve any reasonable level of AI ability - especially when you start having to deal with Vet 3+ Obers or Vet 5 Volks... good luck.
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You know people saying this kind of crap makes me realise how spoiled allied players are witth their e-8. 85 spam.
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It was not too hot before, as it basically had no AI and it was very hard to get offensive with T4.
Now there is the Jackson, which makes it look even worse
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People like the Jagdpanzer IV that much? Hmm, I find I have better success with the SU-85, although that could be pure fluke. Is the SU-85 faster than the JPIV?
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The Soviets - the real ones, fighting during WWII - found the SU-85's gun had trouble penetrating Axis armour, so it looks like Relic has this spot on. It's historically accurate, but doesn't make for good gameplay.
Replace the SU-85 with the SU-100, and problems solved. True, the SU-100 only really saw action in 1945, but just getting rid of the SU-85 for it would solve player complaints.
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jagdpanzer is so good, do u know how hard it is to hit a pagdpanzer with a su85/zis/Jackson ect? its the hardest tank to hit, it misses and deflects a ton
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All of my nope.
This unit is performing perfectly find as it is. I remember the days of the dreaded SU85 spam. I still have PTSD from those days...
Seriously though, I think the main reason we don't see this unit much anymore is because of the call-in meta. Fix that first then we can see how the SU85 performs with the new meta.
Yes it doesn't perform that great against heavy call-in tanks at the moment, but if both players tech correctly this thing performs great. Wait and see before changing I say.
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