Gren squads 5 men?
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If you make grenadiers 5 guys you'd have to up their cost or make other stats worse because atm grenadiers with jaeger infantry commander really shine if you got plenty of munitions.
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I agree that this is a problem. I often lost the one remaining squad member when manning enemy paks during intense fights. Thats why I usually do it with inexperienced pioneers because they are the cheapest and usually have the least experience. Although it is a high XP flamer equipeed engineer then of course I take a freshly built grenadier.
If you make grenadiers 5 guys you'd have to up their cost or make other stats worse because atm grenadiers with jaeger infantry commander really shine if you got plenty of munitions.
Speaking of, if you upgrade your Grens with shecks, and then ask 3 of them to recrew a Pak, does that mean one team member now has a Sheck as well as a Pak?
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Best way to boost its efficiency would be some stats adjustment like better RoF, squad size is just too much.
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Someone has put out a 5-men squad for Grens before, trust me, it's op as hell.
Best way to boost its efficiency would be some stats adjustment like better RoF, squad size is just too much.
Grens don't need 5th man for more dmg, they need it to more easily recrew support weapons and have more survivability against explosives. Stats can easily be adjusted.
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Grens don't need 5th man for more dmg, they need it to more easily recrew support weapons and have more survivability against explosives. Stats can easily be adjusted.
It'd take a bit of work since they'd have to mess with pretty much all of their combat stats in compensation for their new squad member and it'd be such a shame to mess with the absolutely perfect balance of early Grens vs. Scripts. Just fix them having a poor formation, Infantry Section can manage it, right?
...and then probably all of the other non-UKF 4-man squads too. The formation is probably 95% of the cons to Falls.
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Grens don't need 5th man for more dmg, they need it to more easily recrew support weapons and have more survivability against explosives. Stats can easily be adjusted.
If that's the case then OH might as well replace Gren with Volks, cuz with next patch Volk will get faust so I think 4-man squad is a characteristic of OH, any chance and they might as well become reskined OKW.
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As for grens themselves I don't think an extra man is the right way a small received accuracy buff would be much better.
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However, late game, grens REALLY need some kind of bonus. They get absolutely destroyed at all ranges by vet 3 rifles and vet 3 infantry sections, even with LMGs and their own vet 3.
I would suggest either a received accuracy buff in vet 2, or a +1 model upgrade locked behind T3. That would allow for the early game to remain unchanged, while providing grens the survivability upgrade they need in late game.
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But as other have said- fix the formation first
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Other ways to address Grens problems:
- reduce reinforce cost to 28
- improve squad formation (spacing between models)
- add a little buff to rec acc at vet 3
DONE!
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edit: i actually thought of a better way to deal with this issue since then. which is to make whermact re crew with 2 men and other factions 3. however this idea was made before Americans and OKW but makes it so your not on hp squad after re crewing it also asymmetricalizes the match ups slightly more making them play slightly differently. both ideas have good and bad things but this one effects the matchups and balance a whole lot less.
ps a crazy thought that probably way to radical is make rear echelon 6 man squads (they might actually be useful then) but that is probably insane frankly
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this thread is SOOO OLD its not even funny its from 2013 its barely even relevent anymore... but i guess i won't stop you enjoy the old fossil its whats its their for i stand here slightly amused
I was tempted to make a comment about a 5th man, until I actually did realize this was from 2013, but hey it's still relevant
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"Speaking of, if you upgrade your Grens with shecks, and then ask 3 of them to recrew a Pak, does that mean one team member now has a Sheck as well as a Pak?"
Interesting question. Nobody seems to know. I guess one PzSchreck is lost (in case u are refering to PzGren which are equipped with two PzSchrecks)
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