The unit inside the WC-51 truck takes no damage when the truck is destroyed (probably a bug, but the commander is shit now so no need to nerf it)
German trenches are way too fragile for what is basically a hole in the ground, but you also lose the squad when it's destroyed
Trenches should act like the WC trucks. I don't think anyone would be against this simple change to make trenches viable, instead of death traps
German Trenches should not kill its garrison when destroyed
15 Sep 2014, 07:05 AM
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15 Sep 2014, 07:07 AM
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I like this idea. As it is, infantry are actually more vulnerable to AT guns when placed in trenches.
Maybe this change should also come with the addition of a cost to trenches?
Maybe this change should also come with the addition of a cost to trenches?
15 Sep 2014, 08:39 AM
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Or maybe trenches, being holes in the ground should just not die... capturable by anyone who can get to them, but they shouldn't die.
I think if we went for a more traditional WWI style trench though instead of this one with the tarp/blind over the top, it might make things more interesting.
I think if we went for a more traditional WWI style trench though instead of this one with the tarp/blind over the top, it might make things more interesting.
15 Sep 2014, 08:42 AM
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Who the hell is using trenches in this game?! They are a waste of time.
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A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
15 Sep 2014, 08:49 AM
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Who the hell is using trenches in this game?! They are a waste of time.
they are useful, especially in Combination with the raketenwerfer.
I like the idea, but I think it's not easy or even possible to implement, since a trench acts like a building and a collapsed building means death.
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15 Sep 2014, 09:16 AM
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they are useful, especially in Combination with the raketenwerfer.
I like the idea, but I think it's not easy or even possible to implement, since a trench acts like a building and a collapsed building means death.
Am I the only one who feels that this sequel has less overall realistic physics and destruction compared to the first game?
15 Sep 2014, 09:19 AM
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Am I the only one who feels that this sequel has less overall realistic physics and destruction compared to the first game?
Yes. The first game had cool mechanics where if there were holes in buildings, some shots could go through them.
15 Sep 2014, 09:21 AM
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Yes. The first game had cool mechanics where if there were holes in buildings, some shots could go through them.
Well it also had unique destruction for every shot delivered.. I mean it was really detailed down to the most minute thing. Also rubble from buildings could be used as green cover if it was lucky enough to fall into a good spot... or it could fall on a model and kill it. I mean the old game was VERY VERY detailed.
15 Sep 2014, 09:46 AM
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Or maybe trenches, being holes in the ground should just not die... capturable by anyone who can get to them, but they shouldn't die.
I think if we went for a more traditional WWI style trench though instead of this one with the tarp/blind over the top, it might make things more interesting.
Being able to capture them was good, the problem with trenches in CoH1 though was that flamers were the only way to reliably deal with them. You could literally stick a machinegun aiming down the trench lengthways with no obstacles between the bullets and the people sitting in the trench, and it would still count as "better than green cover" for the tommies inside.
Of course, if you make them flankable, which is more realistic, you have the problem of near uselessness because combat distances in the game are drastically short. It takes seconds to get from maximum rifle range to grenade lobbing range. It's gonna be silly and unrealistic no matter how you cut it to be honest.
15 Sep 2014, 13:28 PM
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I'm fine with them, and like the proposed changes.
But units in the trenches should be more vulnerable to fire.
But units in the trenches should be more vulnerable to fire.
16 Sep 2014, 02:29 AM
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Posts: 365
should be MORE vulnerable?
I never make them, and i never go in them if i see them. Theyre bassically death traps.
same thing happens everytime "oh hes in a trench ill throw a grenade" you escape the trench.. then they take the trench. then they immedaitly leave as youre now throwing grenades or mortaring them back.
I never make them, and i never go in them if i see them. Theyre bassically death traps.
same thing happens everytime "oh hes in a trench ill throw a grenade" you escape the trench.. then they take the trench. then they immedaitly leave as youre now throwing grenades or mortaring them back.
16 Sep 2014, 02:41 AM
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Really? when trenches die they kill the garrison? whenever i use trenches i never lose my squads i usually lose 2 models.
17 Sep 2014, 11:57 AM
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Posts: 692
I've lost a full MG team when the trench dies
I think the trench "building" shouldn't be taking so much damage from direct fire from things like AT guns and tanks, but explosives of any kind should take them out
They also shouldn't be super durable like british trenches in coh 1, they'd be way too powerful in OH/OKW hands
I think the trench "building" shouldn't be taking so much damage from direct fire from things like AT guns and tanks, but explosives of any kind should take them out
They also shouldn't be super durable like british trenches in coh 1, they'd be way too powerful in OH/OKW hands
17 Sep 2014, 12:17 PM
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They also shouldn't be super durable like british trenches in coh 1, they'd be way too powerful in OH/OKW hands
Shouldn't have to worry about that, because right now a strong breeze can collapse them...
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