T-34/76 underperformig when in comparison to M4 sherman

Honestly, i find that T34 is considerably better than the USF stock sherman. The Sherman apparently refuses to pen anything, even with pen rounds active. T34 atleast does. Thats purely my subjective opinion.
All i find the stock sherman good for are the HE rounds, and even those arent beastly.

Sherman gun is exactly 100% has the same penetration as the t-34/76. Only difference sherman fires faster, which can make it or break it in a 1v1 tank engagement.

Sherman gun is exactly 100% has the same penetration as the t-34/76. Only difference sherman fires faster, which can make it or break it in a 1v1 tank engagement.

Still would rather have a T34 anyday

Still would rather have a T34 anyday

And why exactly is that?

And why exactly is that?

Look at the post where i said that Sherman doesnt feel any better.

The difference between these 2 tanks is not minor. That 1 second reload difference makes a HUGE difference in a tank engagement.

I have to disagree. 1 second reload is virtually nothing when you're comparing medium tanks. Also, if you have to switch between HE shells to Armour Piercing, you immediately lose all the time advantage you would have over the T34. Don't forget, Shermans are incredibly easy to ambush with tanks when they've got HE shells on.

And the sherman difference in AOE isin't minor either, sherman AOE kill radius is 1.4, t-34 radius 1.1. While the sherman also comes with the m36 jackson, and you can't have an su-85 if you want t-34s

I think this is compensated with the fact you get mark target, easily accessible non-doctrinal mines, a superior AT-Gun and heavy tanks.

Look at the post where i said that Sherman doesnt feel any better.

Well, it is better, because that is what the stats say. Even with AP rounds turned on, the sherman is already better than the t-34 in terms of anti infantry, HE rounds are just icing on the cake.


And 1 second reload difference is HUGE in tank vs tank engagements.

Say you have a panzer IV engaging a t-34, whoever fires first, generally will win, panzer IV still had the advantage due to better pen and armor, but it was negligible, now PIV just rolls over T-34, while being mostly equal to the sherman.


Most people i feel haven't seen just how weak the t-34 is this patch.

I think this is compensated with the fact you get mark target, easily accessible non-doctrinal mines, a superior AT-Gun and heavy tanks.

Shermans have A superior Tank destroyer in their tech tier, Immobilizing non doctrinal mines, Non doctrinal bazookas, AT guns with 70 range and better reload(penetration if you pay the munitions price i believe) And a very powerful anti tank strafe from airbourne. USF tanks can even cap points, repair crits and the tank at a moments notice.

But these aren't even reasons that are most important they are secondary, Simply but The T34s 10 fuel cheaper price cannot possibly be justified when compared to the sherman who outperforms it in literally every statistical category without even using HE rounds, don't need to even toggle to beat a t34. Then has multiple abilities such as smoke, Pintle mgs and better vet abilities. Sherman wins and wins hard in every quanitifiable category for more than a poultry 10 fuel and 30 mp can justify. Except speed t34 is .1/6.5 speed faster than the sherman so to be fair that may make "feel better"

Yeah please give back the Rodina the T-34/76 we knew. That would be swell.

But these aren't even reasons that are most important they are secondary, Simply but The T34s 10 fuel cheaper price cannot possibly be justified when compared to the sherman who outperforms it in literally every statistical category without even using HE rounds, don't need to even toggle to beat a t34. Then has multiple abilities such as smoke, Pintle mgs and better vet abilities. Sherman wins and wins hard in every quanitifiable category for more than a poultry 10 fuel and 30 mp can justify. Except speed t34 is .1/6.5 speed faster than the sherman so to be fair that may make "feel better"

The T34's gun and the Sherman's gun armed with AP rounds have the same penetration at all ranges.
The T34 has an AOE radius of 2.5 and greater AOE at all ranges although to compensate for this, it has slightly worse accuracy in terms of scatter far and angle (Although this still amounts to the T34's gun being better in terms of Anti-infantry when considering overall statistical value of its AOE versus how often and close it will hit). The averaged out reload time of the T34 between far and near reload time is 6.4. The averaged out reload time of the Sherman is 5.8. They have essentially the same weapon except the T34 has slightly better anti-infantry.

Now, let's compare the Sherman's HE rounds vs the T34's main gun. The HE rounds have an AOE radius of 4 and greater AOE at all ranges and are slightly more accurate in terms of scatter angle/distance. However, this mode has virtually no penetration (25 to be exact) and switching out of HE to normal involves a 6 second delay which is very damaging if you've been ambushed by a/(multiple) tank(s).


Now, let's compare armour, HP and speed (the only other departments left).

The Sherman has the same HP pool as the T34 although it has 10 more frontal armour and 5 more back armour. The max speed of the Sherman is 6.4 whereas the maximum speed of the T34 is 6.5 (virtually the same). The Sherman costs 30 more manpower and 10 more fuel.


As you can see, they're very similar units. The Sherman is slightly better in most areas but at the expense of being more costly and not having as good units/ability complements overall (i.e Mark Target, Button, etc).

Every top-level player I've faced so far has built a ton of T34s. Maybe they know something you don't. Like how 2 play.

The irony is real in this statement.

I've personally found the new T34/76 under-perform dramatically against armor'd units thx to the reduction in reload time. Only after equipping it with 3 special t-34 bulletins have I found it actually become useful.

And for those wondering, I know for a fact that the Sherman is more effective than the T-34 by far, after using both extensively against high lvl and low lvl players. Better penetration, better AI, has a topgunner. And is only a little more expensive than a T-34. Totally would take it every time. Which is why I think USF is better at countering OKW than Sov.

revert the reload speed.

sherman can upgrade top mg for addtional infantry damage, while it cost some munitions, i think it shouldnt be discounted for what its worth, while the t34 has to rely on its main gun for the bulk of its damage.

I think there will be a big patch regarding the call-in and tier structure.

I agree about that the T-34/76 is trash now. Now I only see either T-34/85 or IS2. My panzer iv is just dominating this poor guy(T-34/76). Now I have to worry about it ramming my tiger instead of going around to kill me.

Ok, so lets look at the t-34/76 and M4 sherman, they both cost almost the same, 100 vs 110.

However, for some strange reason, the sherman is better than the t-34 in every, single way.

Sherman fires faster and is more accurate slightly

Sherman HE rounds have more AOE than t-34/76. 1.1 kill radio for t-34/76, 1.4 for the sherman

sherman has slightly more armor

sherman comes with a tank destroyer in the same tier building, thus making it more flexible

sherman has smoke, non doctrinal crew repair.


I don't understand why there is such a major difference in performance between the sherman and t-34.

I think if the t-34/76 got the same AOE as the sherman it would be fine.



One thing to note that the t-34/76 did have an AOE kill radius of 1.4 meters before western front armies was released. Then the t-34/76 got a stealh nerf for some reason.

I'm almost pretty sure T-34/76 costs 90 fuel now.

I'm almost pretty sure T-34/76 costs 90 fuel now.

No it doesn't. It costs 100 fuel.

It's 100. You are correct.

I thought it was a waste of fuel before the nerf TBH. With tech cost. The only thing I like in T3 is the T70. Mmmmm T70....

I thought it was a waste of fuel before the nerf TBH. With tech cost. The only thing I like in T3 is the T70. Mmmmm T70....

T70 is op. Destroys infantry with that rapid firing 45. I wonder why more people won't use it.

T70 is op. Destroys infantry with that rapid firing 45. I wonder why more people won't use it.

Because it is too expensive for its perfomance, its oportunity windows is too small and self repair ability doesn't work properly.

T70 is op. Destroys infantry with that rapid firing 45. I wonder why more people won't use it.

it comes out a little late. Soon PZ4 will be coming and t70 won't be as effective. T34 is a safer option i think