Russian IL2 bombing strike ineffective and slow

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 12:12 PMGreeb

Even so, it's much easier to notice 4 red flares pinpointing the exact landing zone that an high pitched sound that roughly indicates that a bomb is coming.

If you are convinced that stuka dive bomb sound is as noticeable as the flares, then I don't know why are you arguing. Just support IL-2 Bomb Strike having the same sound warning since you think that it doesn't gives any advantage in relation to flares.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 12:46 PMKronosaur0s

Well? IL2 can almost kill a heavy tank, lets not talk about mediums, it must have any weakness dont you think?

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:04 PMBurts

Well, this thing oneshots pak43s and howitzres. So that's a thing.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:04 PMBurts

i'm fairly sure it is still possible to land it if you button a tank

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:04 PMBurts

if a heavy drives over a mine it's also i think possible to land it.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:07 PMGreeb

That's if it could hit any moving target, which currently it can't.
Maybe it could destroy a slow tank with heavy damage engine, but even in that case I think it could get away in a big map.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:10 PMGreeb

**Sorry double post**


It's probably their only use, destroying Pak43 and OKW trucks. But the commanders where IL-2 Bomb Strike is placed suggests a anti-armor use which now is unable to do.


Not since button nerf. Plenty of times it can still safely get away.
That's to unreliable for a 200 ammo + button ammo waste.


It depends on the engine damage and map size/distance to soviet base. In bigger maps like the ones for 3vs3/4vs4 modes it can still safely go away.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:17 PMKronosaur0s

The only possible solution, lure enemy tanks to the edge of the map, and call the IL2, it will work wonders

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:23 PMJ1N6666

I think my IQ just went down from reading this comment.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:17 PMKronosaur0s

And what kind of bombing run can kill a moving target?

Stuka diving bomb? Cant
Stuka bombing run? Cant
IL2 bombing run? Cant


[Stuka smoke run comes also too late]


The only possible solution, lure enemy tanks to the edge of the map, and call the IL2, it will work wonders

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:31 PMGreeb

What I'm telling is not changing the bombing run at all. Just making the flares a bit less evident.
Instead of 4 flares and the landing zone being in the middle, just light ONE flare placed randomly in one point close to the designated bombing zone.

The plane will come as slowly as always, but at least the enemy player won't know exactly on which direction move to avoid the bombing strike, although he will have a rough idea of where the bombs are going to explode.

And yes, the same should be applied to Stuka Bombing Run.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 13:17 PMKronosaur0s

And what kind of bombing run can kill a moving target?

Stuka diving bomb? Cant
Stuka bombing run? Cant
IL2 bombing run? Cant


[Stuka smoke run comes also too late]


The only possible solution, lure enemy tanks to the edge of the map, and call the IL2, it will work wonders

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 14:09 PMJaigen

how about no. we dont need fucking i win buttons period.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 14:48 PMKatitof

So you would be fine if IL-2 got cost reduction to 180 as well?

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 15:30 PMKronosaur0s

?? And same stats as Stuka bombing run? I dont care, but who wants symmetrical balance anyways?

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 15:36 PMKatitof

And who said anything about the stats?

You know exactly where it will land and have much longer time to avoid it, because plane is slow, bombs take good 5 secs from plane to the ground.

Its inferior enough in everything but a damage(that is still spread over the area and since its impossible to lock armor in place anymore) to warrant lower cost.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 12:45 PMGreeb

I don't know you, but I don't hear the bomb until the second 00:17, and the bombs hits at 00:22.
That's 5 effective seconds to retreat, not enough for support units as you can see.

Meanwhile...

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 15:36 PMKatitof

And who said anything about the stats?

You know exactly where it will land and have much longer time to avoid it, because plane is slow, bombs take good 5 secs from plane to the ground.

Its inferior enough in everything but a damage(that is still spread over the area and since its impossible to lock armor in place anymore) to warrant lower cost.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 17:59 PMSteiner500

Why is Stuka dive bomb strong as IL2 bombing strike and cheaper/faster/has no flares???
I thought Russians had Air Superiority in the 1944 ? And why is it more expensive then?

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 14:09 PMJaigen

how about no. we dont need fucking i win buttons period.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2014, 17:59 PMSteiner500

Why is Stuka dive bomb strong as IL2 bombing strike and cheaper/faster/has no flares???
I thought Russians had Air Superiority in the 1944 ? And why is it more expensive then?