The disbalance! Much buffs needed!
Predicatable,boring faction...with 3/4th of its unit roster redundant.No top players 'opinion' can change this fact.
You've just described soviets.
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Predicatable,boring faction...with 3/4th of its unit roster redundant.No top players 'opinion' can change this fact.
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The Maxim needs increased setup time and a tad less suppression. Pushing a skilled maxim spammer off the map is just too darn difficult.
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Are you better then him?
Can you micro as good?
Do you have as many games with all factions?
Do you have a deep understanding of units and armies functions and capabilities?
Do you know stats?
Can you provide actual gameplay replays that would back you in any way?
Yes, in this case being great player does make the final argument.
People like to listen to people who have a clue and can prove it. Cruzz certainly can with his rank with ALL armies. What is your best for comparison?(rethorical question)
Elaborate please, why some random one faction only player of unknown but presumed low ladder rank wouldn't hold on to an opinion of a player that plays equally all factions on very top level and as pretty much only player here can be called truly objective.
Even I don't always agree with better/top players, but I'm not completely immune to facts backed up by gameplay they provide to convince me to their case.
@dasheepeh
The part in bracket was specifically for players like you.
Even on official forums you have german fanboys asking if IS-2 isn't bugged for how bad its AI is recently.
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Oh yea, for every 6.8 games soviets win and 6.6 games USF wins, poor wehrmacht wins "only" 6.5 games and OKW wins "only" 6.6 games.
The disbalance! Much buffs needed!
You've just described soviets.
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If the game is balanced for equally skilled high level player, then the game is balanced.
If you have disbalance on lower ranks, its because of skill difference, therefore L2P issue, not balance issue.
Its that simple.
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If the game is balanced for equally skilled high level player, then the game is balanced.
If you have disbalance on lower ranks, its because of skill difference, therefore L2P issue, not balance issue.
Its that simple.
Also you have conveniently forgot about USF, but lets go with that:
Sov: 6.2 games out of 10 won.
USF: 5.9
Ost: 5.9
OKW: 6.5
What you have proven here?
That OKW needs to be nerfed as its clearly on the high edge here.
And the difference is still less then one game won per every 10 games played.
All of that "oh so uncounterable soviet units" and still Soviets win almost as much games as ostheer while loosing more then OKW.
Was that your aim or you're still learning to read % based tables?
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IS-2 armor doesn't kill.
Tigers 88mm does both vehicles and infantry alike.
IS-2 is effective only against vehicles currently(inb4 spasms of denial-play with it and see how awesome AI it currently have without DSHK upgrade).
I will allow Cruzzi to replay for other stuff as I personally am tired of reasoning with brick walls who always know better even if reality slaps something entirely different right into their faces.
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First is this a average of all the figures?
Coz u urself said higher than 2 vs 2 don't matter for balance as they can't be balanced..backtracking?
I don't care about OKW as my arguments are concerned with ostheer.Do what u want with them.And do u deny that wehr are nowhere to be seen in top 2.Also least played faction....now answer me directly why does this faction have 1 infantry unit and 1 useable late game tank?Simple question...and how long are we expected to put up with this?
Geramn T4 and panzergrenadiers need to be buffed ,and u can't give any reasons why they shouldn't...come straight to point..why are u opposing german t4 and pz gren buff idea knowing they are completely extinct units?
Only one answer-complete soviet bias.You want to on purpose keep wehr a 1 infantry,1 tank crippled faction.
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No. First post for 1v1, 2nd for 2v2(as you have asked for 2v2 by using it first).
First of all, its % of wins for all factions, not a ladder in itself, doesn't matter what faction is first and what is last as long as they are all relatively close to each other.
In case of 3 factions the difference is 3%, which means almost perfect balance.
In case of 4th, OKW, the difference is twice as big, indicating for a minor balance issue with them being tad too strong somewhere.
Secondly, which faction is played most and which faction is played least have absolutely nothing to do with anything, the data is for top 200 of all 4 factions and as you and others like to chant in the que proportions threads, which faction is being played most or least have nothing to do with balance, but preference. In DoW2 nids were strongest and yet least played.
Thirdly, as it was pointed to you multiple times in a plethora of threads-its all about how you use the unit.
Best players have no problems with it, bad players complain. I'd go with balance opinions of players better then me in this case and say they perform fine, which leads us to the second part-how long will you have to put up with that? Until you learn to properly use them.
Pgrens perform fine.
T4 units perform fine.
Getting to T4 is the part that is not fine.
As opposed to you, I actually play all 4 factions, I don't give a shit about bias, I have a prefference of a playstyle, but since I play all of them I want equal chances with all of them.
Play more then ost, learn other factions, play AGAINST ost and you'll suddenly find out that the grass is not greener on the other side and you don't have it half as bad as you make it seem.
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I dunno, people say tigers are a must for ostheer, but i prefer first getting an ostheer command tank at 8CPs (For some reason whenever i play vs USF CPs go up really fast), and since most USF players will either get a M15 or a Stuart or a Greyhound means that the PIV command tank will have free reign over USF for a while. After that i follow with PIVs.
Grens might be inferior to rifles at 1v1, but once they get LMG, they become very cost effective. MG42 vs USF is very good too.
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I have just had to work my way through 12 consecutive complaints on this thread by just one poster against one poster complained of. All but one of the reports were unsustainable. This is intolerable.
I am simply reminding you all, that if you press the Report button that your name comes with the complaint and is noted. If you do so gratuitously, without judgement, it is a low level form of cyber bullying - and a huge irritant - to be dealt with accordingly.
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Katitof: You might play all factions (as do I) but you play very little overall, and that might be the reason why your observations about the state of the meta/balance frankly appear so outlandish sometimes...ie. T4 units performing fine? Sic!
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Let me guess,katitof against me?I have never complained about anyone ever.
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