Fix Luftwaffe Supply Doctrine medial supplies.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2014, 06:42 AMHappyPhace

Good to see people are noticing its ridiculousness now. Initially I was caught off guard by it a few days ago by the two same Ostheer players.

Aside from the fact the boxes provide sight, able to block paths and be virtually indestructible (they can't be manually targeted) and exploding from indirect fire, the AoE heal and accuracy buff from a single box is ridiculous right now for its cost.

I wish I had saved the replay and made a short video, but I think it was just yesterday when a single gren squad, upon picking up a medical box, was able to tank the DPS of 3 USF Rifle squads point blank, not a single model was lost once the boxes were obtained, and you can visibly see the health bar rapidly go up as soon as the box had been picked up.

Funnily enough a .50cal still works just fine and will do large AoE suppression on clumped up grens. People who are "abusing" this will more often than not just blob up their grens in order to maximize the effect of their medical boxes.

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found footage of the particular incident I was talking about.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2014, 11:19 AMArclyte

Except that's not what happened at all

Two full hp squads picked up all 3 boxes, sat in green cover and were both forced off the field after taking heavy damage

Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2014, 10:36 AMAerohank

The Luftwaffe Supply Doctrine medical supplies ability is beyond broken. It makes units in a big radius have in-combat healing and buffed stats all for a whopping 10 ammo per crate available at 1cp.

In comparison:
- OKW valiant assault is 100 ammo and comes late. It also does not heal. A mass retreat will render the effects of the ability to a minimum.
- Medpacks, the vet1 Wehrmacht ability, can only heal 1 squad and is close to the cost of 3 crates.
- For mother russia is also 100 ammo, comes late, does not heal, and comes with a 1 minute downtime where the units are weaker.
- Concentrated Fire ability on the Artillery field officer is 25 munitions while a 10 ammo crate does the same + many other benefits.

Seriously, this ability is stupidly powerful. It also stacks so if you pick up 2 or more crates your units get insane combat effectiveness for 20-30 ammo. It's not even funny. For the stats bonus, the sprint and in-combat healing

Proposed changes:
- Keep stats the same, make it 60-75 ammo for one medical drop. This will make it more in-line with Valiant Assault and For Mother Russia. It would make it possible for the enemy to retreat to minimize the impact of the drop, just like with valiant assault and for mother russia.
- Keep it cheap at 10 ammo per crate but remove all bonuses except healing, and make that out-of combat only.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2014, 16:35 PMRomeo

fixed how? Can allies pick the boxes up now?

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2014, 12:02 PMAbdul

I know this was asked before in the thread but it was never answered. Aside from healing, what are the exact defensive and offensive bounces gained from picking up those medical supplies?