Soviet Defensive Doctrine M-42
9 Aug 2014, 11:52 AM
#1
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I got a suggestion for the defensive doctrine M-42. How about replacing it with the 85mm AA gun M1939 (52-K)? That would make it so that the defensive doctrine is slightly more appealing. They were used as AA guns and AT guns ( in emergencies ) with great success throughout the war. This AA gun was the basis for the D-5T gun on the T34/85 and SU/85. What you think?
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9 Aug 2014, 12:00 PM
#2
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Relic (almost certainly) won't replace a unit in an existing doctrine like that, unfortunately. At best they'll buff the M42 into usefulness.
9 Aug 2014, 12:13 PM
#3
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It's more like the tanks it would decently counter such as the Panzer I and III don't exist and the Panzer II comes out late enough to just have a ZiS-3 instead since that scales later into the game.
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9 Aug 2014, 12:52 PM
#4
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Relic really do not like to make new models. ~ 70% of the models of houses, bridges, barrels and other stuff copied from coh1. Since release, they added only KV-2 turret (without WFA).
It's bit funny to see suggestions to add new units.
It's bit funny to see suggestions to add new units.
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9 Aug 2014, 14:44 PM
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MAYBE, just an idea, allow it to garrison inside buildings?
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9 Aug 2014, 14:49 PM
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MAYBE, just an idea, allow it to garrison inside buildings?
Then it would be extremely bad, but inside a building.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
9 Aug 2014, 15:20 PM
#7
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MAYBE, just an idea, allow it to garrison inside buildings?AT gun in a building? Can you even push it through the door?
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9 Aug 2014, 15:26 PM
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AT gun in a building? Can you even push it through the door?
Well, both armies somehow did during WW2 as AT guns in basements wasn't uncommon sight.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Aug 2014, 02:35 AM
#9
Posts: 508
M-42 is the Ostruppen of AT guns.
Relic should release a commander on April 1 with a "captured weapons" theme where for only 400 MP you can call in an M-42 crewed by Ostruppen.
Relic should release a commander on April 1 with a "captured weapons" theme where for only 400 MP you can call in an M-42 crewed by Ostruppen.
10 Aug 2014, 02:51 AM
#10
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Reduce the cost to 180, replace tracking with sprint.
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10 Aug 2014, 03:04 AM
#11
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AT gun in a building? Can you even push it through the door?
since when are doors an issue to men with lots of firepower and direct orders?
10 Aug 2014, 03:09 AM
#12
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M-42 is the Ostruppen of AT guns.Like it would be useful. Who needs the M-42 if the only it kills is the M3 and T-70. Plus, a panzerfaust and MG42 does the job better.
Relic should release a commander on April 1 with a "captured weapons" theme where for only 400 MP you can call in an M-42 crewed by Ostruppen.
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10 Aug 2014, 04:54 AM
#13
Posts: 508
Oh, sorry, I was just making a joke about how hopelessly useless the M-42 is, and suggested that relic make a joke commander that combines two of the most useless units in the game.
Relic will never implement your idea, but for the record, I think it's a good one. : ( Ah well. At least it's an extra commander we all got for free.
Relic will never implement your idea, but for the record, I think it's a good one. : ( Ah well. At least it's an extra commander we all got for free.
10 Aug 2014, 04:56 AM
#14
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Oh, sorry, I was just making a joke about how hopelessly useless the M-42 is, and suggested that relic make a joke commander that combines two of the most useless units in the game.
Relic will never implement your idea, but for the record, I think it's a good one. : ( Ah well. At least it's an extra commander we all got for free.
Ostruppen are actually pretty decent. They start to fall off in usefulness once vet 2 hits the field, but before that they're pretty solid.
10 Aug 2014, 05:05 AM
#15
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Well they do beat RE troops but never seen anyone use them beat Rifles or even conscripts. You got any replay that shows Osttruppen's usefulness? I'm interested to see how you use them.
Ostruppen are actually pretty decent. They start to fall off in usefulness once vet 2 hits the field, but before that they're pretty solid.
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10 Aug 2014, 06:00 AM
#16
Posts: 508
Ostruppen are actually pretty decent. They start to fall off in usefulness once vet 2 hits the field, but before that they're pretty solid.
I love Ostruppen, and if you've found a way to use them, that'd be wonderful if you could upload a replay. I love the concept but I just can imagine how they could be worth it when only 40 MP more gets you grenadiers who are better at everything besides re-crewing and surviving mortars or whatever. I've seen them lose to unupgraded combat engineers in equal cover.
Do you use them against the US mixed with lots of MGs? I can imagine they'd be better there, since Grens lose to rifles and rely on MGs anyway.
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