KV-8 40% damage nerf?

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2014, 18:49 PMMr. Someguy

I always thought flame crits were random, so I learned something today.

At once point are infantry able to be flame critted? 50%? 35, 20?

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2014, 18:51 PMKatitof

At 100%.

Probability increases with hp loss.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2014, 20:27 PMNapalm

Time. Time is an asset in this game. The longer something takes to be destroyed or die the more time the opposing player has time to react. Remember the day's of the German MG42 bunkers that required a ZiS to destroy? It would take a very long time for that bunker to go down and the risk to that ZiS dying in the process was very high.

Now, the KV8 is going to take a longer time to destroy or kill it's target. The opposing player will have time to react and send a hard counter (which there is plenty of I might add). The KV8 has become less effective at it's job.

I'd argue that the KV8 should get a price reduction to reflect its current performance.

PS: Pretty cool to see bC_ posting here. Thanks dude.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2014, 18:42 PMbC_

zz going to explain a bit how FIRE works. When you infantry gets totally rekt and dies instantly to fire its due to a critical. A critical which triggers usually when you are below a certain hit point.

When the unit gets to a lower hit point the critical will trigger more frequent.

More damage > lowers hp faster > triggers critical quicker > entity dies in a fire.

Less damage > lowers hp slower > triggers critical slower > entity die slower in a fire.

Essentially if your squad was already damage it could still potential get one shotted by the KV-8 Flame shot. This has not changed.

What is the biggest thing your going to notice with the KV-8 with its damage reduced? Well it wont kill buildings ridiculously fast. That is going to be the most noticeable difference with this change.


To answer to Napalm with the damage being reduced previously to 40 to 27; is when we changed how fire damage worked and how the critical system was applied to units. Technically it was pretty much the same thing but done differently.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2014, 06:37 AMmistermaa

hahaha.... "no-brainer unit...".... like KT is ? or obersoldaten are ? or stuka zu fuss is? cmon...

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2014, 18:28 PMFrikadelleXXL

Good Job german fanboys especially SSWhiney next useless unit for sovjets... thank you very much

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2014, 09:03 AM__deleted__

Someone said that you just need 2 paks. Lol, really? They were decrewed with ease by KV-8. You just had to make the "effort" to move the KV a little between/around them for let's say... 4-5 seconds.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2014, 02:47 AMEkko Tek

#3 You have to admit, the game is not at all transparent or easy for people to figure out on their own as far as the stats under the hood or the damage of things so interpreting balance changes can be pretty hard for 99% of the player base at times. Especially given how much things have already been re-worked over the past year.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2014, 10:10 AMcarloff

Do you know about positioning of 2 Paks against tanks or you just a-move them everytime? Common, 1 Pak in the middle, second in the rear. Jesus...

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2014, 05:46 AMcarloff

So, you guys used nerfhammer to KV8 instead of working with some antifire defence of OKW buildings. Cool. Can we get same aproach to Sturmtiger? Couse you know, it killing units in 1 shot.

Or your logic here - KV-8 was designed as "hard counter" and Stiger was designed as "eraser"?
Same with IL-2 and Incinirate. Why it can't force germans faction to bleed on mp? But in other side they got all the stuff(offmaps especially) to bleed the allies. It was designed in this way?

btw - why Duffy always saying you work with community and listen to them? But only thing I see here "the zz" and "lockin' thread" aproach.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2014, 11:53 AMArclyte

some of you jokers make the KV8 sound like it was the fist of an angry communist god and won games all by itself

Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2014, 11:36 AMBulgakov

Drive through flame the first, drive past, flame the second, ???? PROFIT.

You would have to have the second pak close behind the first for it to definitely hit while the KV8 flames the first. Therefore it wouldn't be a long drive to flame the second.