Login

russian armor

July 8th Patch Notes

bC_
Only Relic postRelic 8 Jul 2014, 17:21 PM
#1
avatar of bC_
Developer Relic Badge

Posts: 102 | Subs: 22

Balance Update (July 8th, 2014)

Maps

After extensive testing we have optimized pathing on a number of maps to improve the quality of gameplay during a match. Numerous changes have also been made to improve balance. Various of bug fixes have been added including an exploit to salvage ambient wrecks; have been fixed.

Vaux farmlands

• Pathing improvements
• Bug fixes

Rails & Metal

• Pathing Improvements
• Bug fixes

Kholodny Spring

• Fixed small firing gap in southern hedge near VP
• destroyed the building in farm area near east player
• Moved east player’s cutoff player closer to their base and refined area
• Added two small infantry only lanes to increase ebb and flow
• Minor pathing fixes
• Minor cover adjustments
• Base alignment

Semois Winter

• Moved a bunker back in the north base
• Deep snow refinement
• Minor pathing fixes
• Minor cover adjustments
• Removed the ability for tanks to Sink from shallow streams

Langres Spring

• Adjustments to north cutoff area
• Added infantry access point to north base area
• Minor territory refinement
• Minor pathing fixes
• Minor cover adjustments
• Base alignment

Soviets

There were a number of issues we wanted to address in the Soviet Army which had to do with squad wiping. The HM-38 120mm Mortar and KV8 come to mind. With the 120mm getting its AOE profile change it will still pack a serious punch at close range but will have reduce damage impact at the mid-range. By offsetting some of values in the profile we will also see a very slight improvement at far range. The KV8 with its flamethrower was designed to be a hard counter against infantry this was never intended to be an eraser of infantry. The high direct damage the flame had would result in criticals triggering more often than intended thus increasing the chances of squad wiping and rendering all forms of infantry at useless. With the reduce damage squads will have a little more time to react accordingly and reduce the chance of squad wiping. Another result of this change will increase the time it takes for the KV-8 to kill buildings (which it kills OKW truck buildings ridiculously fast) The Maxim also had its rotation speed reduced because generally whenever a player tries to flank a maxim; the maxim will rotate quick enough to stop any oncoming flank. Various classic hotkey changes were added to fix overlap.

HM-38 120mm Mortar
• AOE Profile changed from 1.0 / 0.35 / 0.05 to 1 / 0.15 / 0.1

M1919 Maxim Heavy Machine Gun Team
• Reduce Rotation Speed reduced from 180 degrees per second to 120 degrees per second

KV8
• Flamethrower damage reduced from 27 to 16

Overdrive
• Hotkey changed from D to V

Tracking
• Hotkey Changed from R to I

US Forces

Volley fire is getting another change this update. The values that were implemented in the last update proved to be a slight over extension on our part. Where we found at the high expert levels of testing - Volley Fire was still quite effective; it was not easily readable the vast other majority. We decided to tone down some of the penalties and increase its suppression slightly to improve usability. The way Volley fire will work is near the end of the duration the squad being shot at by the ability will get surpressed (never pinned). Switching targets with volley fire will result in the spread of suppression to multiple squads which end up yielding no suppression because the threshold will not be hit. Defensive Stance which is an ability granted when equipped with a M1919 has its suppression reduce for a 360 degree shot it suppressed way too quickly. A number of smaller changes have been made to improve usability of units. Various classic hotkey changes were added to fix overlap.

Defensive Stance
• Suppression bonus reduced from 0.025 to 0.015

M10 ‘Wolverine’ Tank Destroyer
• Now has hold fire

M36 ‘Jackson’ Tank Destroyer
• Now has hold fire

T30E13 HVAP-T Armor Piercing Rounds
• Hotkey changed from H to V

Volley Fire
• Receive Accuracy modifier reduced from 50% to 40%
• Cooldown Weapon Modifier added by 0.125 on the last volley
• Suppression increased on the last volley from 0.01 to 0.03

Werhmacht

With the changes to Blitzkrieg providing max speed we felt that it was a change going into the right direction however we did see some unrealistic speeds achieved by medium tanks on roads. By reducing the max speed modifier we still achieve the intention of the change while maintaining realistic expectations.

Blitzkrieg
• Maximum Speed Modifier reduced from 1.5 to 1.35

OKW

Some small changes we made to help OKW deal with infantry in the early game. The Kubelwagen was in a good place offensively with its suppression however its durability came into question. When you get flanked as weapon team you can generally retreat without losing the squad. Due to the fragile nature of this unit when you were flanked you were severely punished especially if you lost the Kubel. With the slight increase in health it will give players more time to react and get out of danger without losing the kubel so quickly. Flak emplacements were also an defensive structure that was rarely ever built primary due to the fact that it cost too much fuel for an already fuel starved race. With the adjustment of Fuel to Manpower ratio it should be less of a fuel dump than its current revision. We also fixed an exploit that would allow the Puma to use its “Aim Shot” to squad wipe squads inside garrisons. The priority on the IG also got tuned so that it would prioritize infantry over vehicles.

Kubelwagen
• Health increased from 160 to 190

Flak Emplacement
• Cost changed from 130/25 to 250/10

Puma
• Aim Shot can no longer target buildings
• Will no longer share damage against units in garrison

IG 18 7.5cm Infantry Support Gun
• Priority changed to prioritize infantry over vehicles
8 Jul 2014, 17:23 PM
#2
avatar of Lichtbringer

Posts: 476

Êven though not knowing exatly where these things are, I greatly appreciate the general Idea of "cleaning up" maps. Thx.

All the other changes seem really reasonable, I like the small tweaks.
8 Jul 2014, 17:24 PM
#3
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

Posts: 760

The m1919 still does an ungodly amount of damage.
8 Jul 2014, 17:27 PM
#4
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

great changes, not sure about the 120mm nerf tho :/
8 Jul 2014, 17:32 PM
#5
avatar of theblitz6794

Posts: 395

The m1919 needs to do an ungodly amount of damage to compete with the OKW

Which still hasn't been nerfed
8 Jul 2014, 17:35 PM
#7
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

Posts: 760

The m1919 needs to do an ungodly amount of damage to compete with the OKW

Which still hasn't been nerfed

No, it doesnt unless you mean obersoldaten then i agree, both does to much damage
8 Jul 2014, 17:36 PM
#8
avatar of Speculator

Posts: 157

From my initial gathering, the patch notes look great. sws Flak truck looks to be a reasonable investment now. Great to see TDs all getting hold fire now too.
8 Jul 2014, 17:36 PM
#9
avatar of TheMightyCthulu

Posts: 127

I like all the changes, except the slight 120mm nerf. Only because I love using the 120mm, haha.
8 Jul 2014, 17:39 PM
#10
avatar of Rollo

Posts: 738

120mm nerf seemed unneeded to me, now you will have to park it straight next to squads to deal decent damage. In which case you might as well just use a standard mortar again.
8 Jul 2014, 17:41 PM
#11
avatar of Speculator

Posts: 157

jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jul 2014, 17:39 PMRollo
120mm nerf seemed unneeded to me, now you will have to park it straight next to squads to deal decent damage. In which case you might as well just use a standard mortar again.


It got a buff to its long range (2x) with a nerf to its mid range. It's not that bad.
8 Jul 2014, 17:41 PM
#12
avatar of MadeMan

Posts: 304

The Kubelwagon getting more health is fantastic. Looking forward to taking it for a spin.
8 Jul 2014, 17:48 PM
#13
avatar of JHeartless

Posts: 1637

Wow relic wow. GJ GJ! Hold fire was needed on TDs and Kubel was crap. Maxim was too easy to use against OKW and the spam was silly. Hopefully its not an overnerf on the Maxim though.
8 Jul 2014, 17:51 PM
#14
avatar of AmiPolizeiFunk
Admin Black Badge
Patrion 15

Posts: 16697 | Subs: 12

8 Jul 2014, 17:55 PM
#15
avatar of 5trategos

Posts: 449

jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jul 2014, 17:39 PMRollo
120mm nerf seemed unneeded to me, now you will have to park it straight next to squads to deal decent damage. In which case you might as well just use a standard mortar again.


The way I'm reading it, the change is to the AOE profile not the distance to target.

AOE Profile changed from 1.0 / 0.35 / 0.05 to 1 / 0.15 / 0.1


So you can park the 120mm just as far as you used to, it will just deal less dmg at mid ranges of its blast radius.
8 Jul 2014, 17:57 PM
#16
avatar of BartonPL

Posts: 2807 | Subs: 6

after a year or even more KV-8 has been nerfed, gratz
8 Jul 2014, 17:59 PM
#17
avatar of gokkel

Posts: 542

I am not sure how much impact the Maxim change has, it doesn't sound like the proper way to fix it, but will see.

Also, the cost change for Flak Emplacement is pointless, no one is going to use it when it is just constantly shooting on the ground instead of on the enemy.
8 Jul 2014, 18:13 PM
#18
avatar of Smirnoff
Patrion 14

Posts: 111

8 Jul 2014, 18:13 PM
#19
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

after a year or even more KV-8 has been nerfed, gratz


Better late than never I suppose.
8 Jul 2014, 18:16 PM
#20
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jul 2014, 17:59 PMgokkel
Also, the cost change for Flak Emplacement is pointless, no one is going to use it when it is just constantly shooting on the ground instead of on the enemy.


That's a side-effect of how they designed the Flak unfortunately. I might make a debate thread about it since a lot of people seem to complain and I myself have seen entire bursts go to waste.
1 user is browsing this thread: 1 guest

Livestreams

New Zealand 62
Russian Federation 22
unknown 1
Germany 1

Ladders Top 10

  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

VS
  • U.S. Forces flag cblanco ★
  • The British Forces flag 보드카 중대
  • Oberkommando West flag VonManteuffel
  • Ostheer flag Heartless Jäger
uploaded by XXxxHeartlessxxXX

Board Info

565 users are online: 1 member and 564 guests
erdescribe
1 post in the last 24h
15 posts in the last week
37 posts in the last month
Registered members: 48911
Welcome our newest member, delhiescortsservice
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM