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13 Jun 2014, 19:11 PM
#841
avatar of austerlitz

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The fg42 was always used scoped. Probably no armor, high cost to deploy, and a high reinforce cost. The thing is, it does everything; it has a bundled nade for displacing units in cover, panzerfaust for stalling armored units, and a toxic smoke grenade to deny cover and block LoS. It also does not have the panzergrenadier problem - if a conscript squad charges an fallshirms and they are both in no cover, the falshirmjagers, in theory, should demolish the conscripts before they get close to damage it, and the fallshirmjagers should suffer no losses. fg42's should have stg44 dps at a much longer range.


Yes ur right,because it can dmg from long range it won't have as much trouble as pzgren.
But same armor as a gren model?Maybe more health instead of armor.
13 Jun 2014, 19:12 PM
#842
avatar of Qeit

Posts: 61

Sad news about T-34-85. CP changed to 10.
13 Jun 2014, 19:20 PM
#843
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 19:12 PMQeit
Sad news about T-34-85. CP changed to 10.


Might affect 1 vs 1 a little bit ,not other formats.Players who wait 9 cps can wait 10.
13 Jun 2014, 19:30 PM
#844
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Might affect 1 vs 1 a little bit ,not other formats.Players who wait 9 cps can wait 10.

I am looking from 1 vs 1 perspective.

Obtained changelog. It's got really interesting things in it. Especially numbers.
13 Jun 2014, 19:34 PM
#845
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Yes ur right,because it can dmg from long range it won't have as much trouble as pzgren.
But same armor as a gren model?Maybe more health instead of armor.


They are paratroopers, not juggarnauts. No armor and same health as all infantry models.
13 Jun 2014, 19:35 PM
#846
13 Jun 2014, 19:36 PM
#847
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 19:30 PMQeit

I am looking from 1 vs 1 perspective.

Obtained changelog. It's got really interesting things in it. Especially numbers.


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#848
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Just remember the Alpha is under NDA, and this thread is clearly featuring some people breaking it.

The NDA extends past the end of Alpha, so just because it's almost over doesn't mean it can be talked about.

There could be legal consequences for breaking the NDA. It also means that these sorts of things are harder for us to do, if it's obvious that a portion of the community are unable to keep their word.

I think the Alpha was great for the game. It would be a shame if we can't do another one because of continued leaks.

Most everyone has been excellent and great about it. So don't ruin it for them.

Thanks.
13 Jun 2014, 19:40 PM
#849
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Posts: 618

It's quite hard to do because a lot of the time people get false information from somewhere and it's really annoying to see false information being spread and then them saying the expansion is shit because of that information. Not that I ever leaked anything.


It's the same thing with false hopes, like, someone told them that unit is in the epxansion and it actually isn't, and I just don't want it to disappoint people. :(

People need to stop making assumptions about things and taking conclusions too fast, lol.
13 Jun 2014, 19:42 PM
#850
avatar of Qeit

Posts: 61

Finally some comment from Relic. Where have you been this whole time?
jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 19:37 PMNoun
The NDA extends past the end of Alpha, so just because it's almost over doesn't mean it can be talked about.

And as far as I remember Alpha ends in few days. Really good news.
13 Jun 2014, 19:48 PM
#851
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Posts: 4928

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 19:42 PMQeit
Finally some comment from Relic. Where have you been this whole time?


Tuning the Alpha, silly :P
13 Jun 2014, 19:49 PM
#852
avatar of coh2player

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Okay so some confirmation of additional recorded sounds:

-M24 Chaffee
-Hetzer
-Sherman Easy Eight
-M47 Patton (huh??)


The video mistakes the Hetzer for the Jagdpanzer IV.

13 Jun 2014, 19:50 PM
#853
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I don't think it was a "mistake", rather than a stand-in. I can't imagine how hard it is to find functioning WW2 vehicles. It looks like they went to a place that had quite a few, I assume they just didn't have any Jagdpanzer IV's, so they took a similar option.

The M24 Chaffee is certainly interesting though, since it called by name. Possible doctrinal vehicle?
13 Jun 2014, 19:51 PM
#854
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 19:30 PMQeit

I am looking from 1 vs 1 perspective.

Obtained changelog. It's got really interesting things in it. Especially numbers.


Interesting things you aren't supposed to post in public forums :P

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 19:42 PMQeit

And as far as I remember Alpha ends in few days. Really good news.


which means even after it ends you still can't post about the game on public forums :P
13 Jun 2014, 20:08 PM
#855
avatar of Qeit

Posts: 61



Tuning the Alpha, silly :P

Community manager tuning Alpha? o_O


Interesting things you aren't supposed to post in public forums :P

I do not intend to. Noun finally shown himself.
Also it's most likely not last patch to the alpha.

which means even after it ends you still can't post about the game on public forums :P

:D Then there is no difference.o_O I do not understand the point.
13 Jun 2014, 20:45 PM
#856
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

thank god the tiger was nerfed. I hate the tiger right now, while its not as broken as ISU-152 or elephant, it is still broken.
13 Jun 2014, 20:46 PM
#857
avatar of coh2player

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The video has been taken to private...? hmmph.

They identified the Hetzer as a Jagdpanzer IV in the video. It may have been the stand-in, of course.

There are functional Jagdpanzer IVs at the Bovington tank museum (UK) I think.

I don't think it was a "mistake", rather than a stand-in. I can't imagine how hard it is to find functioning WW2 vehicles. It looks like they went to a place that had quite a few, I assume they just didn't have any Jagdpanzer IV's, so they took a similar option.

The M24 Chaffee is certainly interesting though, since it called by name. Possible doctrinal vehicle?


Yep, the M24 may be a doctrinal vehicle. I don't know if it stands in for anything.
13 Jun 2014, 21:00 PM
#858
avatar of Affe

Posts: 578

Okay so some confirmation of additional recorded sounds:

-M24 Chaffee
-Hetzer
-Sherman Easy Eight
-M47 Patton (huh??)


The video mistakes the Hetzer for the Jagdpanzer IV.


http://blogs.companyofheroes.com/2014/06/13/company-of-heroes-2-the-western-front-armies-tank-audio-recording/

Sound of Hetzer is used for the Jagdpanzer IV/70 and the M47 Pershing Sound is used for the german heavys.
Our list was as follows:
•Jagdpanzer 38(t) “Hetzer” – Inline 6 cyl praga engine gasoline
•OT810/Sd.Kfz. 251 ausf Halftrack – 8 cyl Tatra Diesel engine
•M4A3E8 Sherman – V8 Ford GAA gasoline
•M24 Chaffee – 2x 8cyl Cadillac 44T24 gasoline
•M5 Stuart – Continental 7 cyl W-760-9 A radial engine gasoline
•M47 Pershing heavy tank – V8 Twin Continental Twin Turbo gasoline

The Chaffee and Pershing tanks weren’t really vehicles that were going to be in our game but we felt they offered a unique recording opportunity. The Chaffee had twin Cadillac engines which were found in various vehicles in the war and the twin turbo of the Pershing we felt might translate well to some of the heavier German tanks.

No Pershing in the game very disappointed about that.<444>_<444>
13 Jun 2014, 21:06 PM
#859
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I am worried even alpha testers will be surprised with the game when it launches.
13 Jun 2014, 21:21 PM
#860
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Posts: 1705

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jun 2014, 21:00 PMAffe

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No Pershing in the game very disappointed about that.<444>_<444>


They might add it later for DLC.Though i believe because soviets have heavy late game armour..they didn't take that path with americans..basically saying..u want heavies as allies go soviets.
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Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
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Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
webdesign-muenchen-w: @Rosbone it is sick
14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
12 Mar 2025, 03:51 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! :P
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then?
06 Mar 2025, 03:20 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. :rofl:
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
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