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ISU 152 v Elephant

12 May 2014, 14:10 PM
#41
avatar of Bulgakov

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Make bigger maps with less obstructions so a flank is more feasible?
12 May 2014, 17:45 PM
#42
avatar of OZtheWiZARD

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The Elephant is not OP.
The ISU is op.
BUT the elephant is OP vs the ISU. So if the ISU didn't exist the elephant would be not OP (or viewed as op, because he isn't OP).

And the Elephant is a bit usefull against IS2, and because of Company of Callins, the Elephant is often a good choice, because you neeeed him vs the OP ISU anyway.


Really? Is this your logic?
Elephant was crazy OP long before ISU. The meta was different so it was rare to see one. Why would you wait for super late call in if you could have a bunch of T3/T4 tanks roaming the field due to German armour being far superior.

Someone said you can build ZiS and counter Ele this way. Well from my experience it doesn't work because I can snipe Soviet tanks without even getting into range? You want to rush in and close the distance? Go ahead! My support is waiting for you while I'll retreat my Ele so it can still snipe your tanks from the distance.

Play something else than 3v3 from time to time to see things as they are.
12 May 2014, 18:08 PM
#43
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

The Elephant is not OP because in 1v1 it is useless.

I don't give a fuck in other mode.
12 May 2014, 18:10 PM
#44
avatar of Burts

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jump backJump back to quoted post12 May 2014, 18:08 PMPorygon
The Elephant is not OP because in 1v1 it is useless.

I don't give a fuck in other mode.


Well, a balance to the elephant could go both ways. Its range could get reduced, but it could be made more useful in 1v1s too.
12 May 2014, 18:10 PM
#45
avatar of dasheepeh

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jump backJump back to quoted post12 May 2014, 18:08 PMPorygon
The Elephant is not OP because in 1v1 it is useless.

I don't give a fuck in other mode.


A unit can be op in other gamemodes you know. Doesnt matter if you dont care.
12 May 2014, 20:42 PM
#46
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

jump backJump back to quoted post12 May 2014, 18:08 PMPorygon
The Elephant is not OP because in 1v1 it is useless.

I don't give a fuck in other mode.

Well I don't give a fuck about what you give a fuck about, which cancels out all the fucks. I guess it's still OP.
12 May 2014, 21:50 PM
#47
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If you want to see what happens when you spam ISU, I suggest you view this replay.

http://www.coh2.org/replay/17202/cohbros-isu-is-based-god
12 May 2014, 22:41 PM
#48
avatar of pantherswag

Posts: 231

Make bigger maps with less obstructions so a flank is more feasible?


That would require Relic to remove maps that were built for 1v1 from the pool and make them design their own maps, which would take far too much work.

Edit: Be sure to pre-order "Western Fronts: This Time Will Be Different, We Swear" now!
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