April 24th Patch Notes Discussion
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Yeah I am really looking forward to tomorrow's new patch! Good job Relic, almost cried after reading the awesome patchnotes!!! Can't wait see german fanboys like SSHeini or 5thSSIwasThereWhen2ndWWwasFought thing Remember: Adapt your playstyle! Use cover!
Post adressed to soviet fanboy whiner:
My objective and argumented posts marked pretty bad your soviet fanboy attitude huh? I see you remember my nickname. Good.
Post adressed to everyone else:
Any comment now has no value before several games with both factions after this patch. Which I hope to achieve untill the end of next weekend. After this "exercise" I will choose the most "brains + skill needed in order to play" faction and play mostly with that one.
Honestly, I hope that my conclusion will be that both factions deserve the same love.
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A lot of people seem to say so, but why? I'm not questioning it, I just can't read it from the changes:
Armor from 105 to 110
Rear armor from 52.5 to 55
Penetration from 35 to 40
Cooldown from 0.6 to 0.5-0.7
Distance scatter max from 2.15 to 2.9
Manpower from 320 to 280
Fuel from 115 to 100
Just because it costs less fuel, and fast Ostwin can do a lot of damage before the counter. + Pak 40 has better accuracy and faster fire rate, giving Ostwin protection from single T34/76.
Its just a feeling, no one knows how these changes will actually work in the game
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I like the idea of this patch but I think that Soviets are going to have a distinct lack of useful AT if they go T3. The raise in penetration is matched by a change in P4 armor, and ram being nerfed will make T34 all but worthless against heavy armor. I get the idea with the penetration at range changes, but I don't think the T34 is really that much faster than the P4 to say that it will be able to flank on a reliable basis, let alone a panther.
I just don't see how T34s are supposed to counter anything heavier than a P4 without ram, when now they cost as much as an Ostwind.
But we'll see I guess. Who knows.
I don't know.
T-34/76 will be a heavy hitter now with relatively small penetration to match its gun characteristic. For me it looks like a pack of T-34/76 can be a real threat now. Having few of them shooting at the same target will make penetration gamble less of a risk while still delivering devastating payload. I only assume acceleration changes will make easier for T-34 to flank the enemy.
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Arty is actually going to be slightly better because its no longer something you barrage the base, it's something you use to bombard a point or something. It's pretty good. The soviet howitzer was particuraly useless before because it had such a long reload time it was ridiciluos.
T-34/76 actually has a decent 27% percent chance to deflect a panzer IV shot.
The reduced armor of tigers rear means that even 2 t-34/76s can pose a threat to it if they attack from rear. (Previously 1 t-34/76 took like 10 minutes to kill a tiger).
Like i said, T-34/76 is going to be ALOT faster than the PZ iv, where as now, t-34 is faster... Slightly.
The first thing i am going to do in the patch is go
1. Gaurd rifle combined arms
2. 4 cons upgrade 2 with ppsh
3. Gaurds
4. T-34 spam
5.Howi
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I don't know.
T-34/76 will be a heavy hitter now with relatively small penetration to match its gun characteristic. For me it looks like a pack of T-34/76 can be a real threat now. Having few of them shooting at the same target will make penetration gamble less of a risk while still delivering devastating payload. I only assume acceleration changes will make easier for T-34 to flank the enemy.
Pack of t34/76's was threat in any patch. It's getting there that was the problem
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Pack of t34/76's was threat in any patch. It's getting there that was the problem
Not really. Single Panther was able to take on multiple T-34/76 without any problem. Been there, done that.
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Not really. Single Panther was able to take on multiple T-34/76 without any problem. Been there, done that.
Hmm, it was able to take on multiple, but let's not say without a problem.
Panthers didn't always win against a pack of 76's.
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Pack of t34/76's was threat in any patch. It's getting there that was the problem
Only because of a ram.
Without ram tiger didn't had much problems scrapping 4 of them at the same time.
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Hmm, it was able to take on multiple, but let's not say without a problem.
Panthers didn't always win against a pack of 76's.
If you knew how to position yourself and wasn't ambushed by your opponent then yes. Without a problem.
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Only because of a ram.
Without ram tiger didn't had much problems scrapping 4 of them at the same time.
TIGER GRUPPE, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACHTUNG!
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cool. then we are in agreement that you cried about unit stats that only existed in your head.
erm...yes yes..whatever you say, human, whatever..
Ontopic: PaK43 fourth man is also great news, even if it is +1 man more to the crew, it adds a lot of survivability...hopefully it wont get wiped as easy as it was before the patch.
Also, why the nerf to the howitzers? OMG
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Not let see how it feel on the battlefield !
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with penetration like that panther will kill every soviet tank
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this patch actually look like german tanks buff and a little balance for soviet anti infantry
with penetration like that panther will kill every soviet tank
Because it had such a hard time against anything other then IS-2 up until now, right...?
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this patch actually look like german tanks buff and a little balance for soviet anti infantryLooks like some1 cant read patchnotes because this patch is a huge buff for Soviets and nerf for Geri
with penetration like that panther will kill every soviet tank
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Hold-fire on tank destroyers and the pak43 is a really nice touch-up, maybe they'll add it for anti-tank guns soon?
Both ZIZ and PAK 40 have Hold fire on camo
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this patch actually look like german tanks buff and a little balance for soviet anti infantry
with penetration like that panther will kill every soviet tank
You read the patch notes for ISU-152?
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this patch actually look like german tanks buff and a little balance for soviet anti infantry
with penetration like that panther will kill every soviet tank
I am surprised that they didn't really buff the conscripts. The armor got a lot of deep buffs, though. I like how they finally increased the usefulness of the T-34 (both types) relative to the SU-85. Now the SU-85 will be less used for sure.
The Panther and Tiger got deep buffs to their penetration but also a price increase.
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