6 men weapon crew and artillery barrage thats why
Considering the factions infantry damage difference, that is not an excuse anymore.
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6 men weapon crew and artillery barrage thats why
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Considering the factions infantry damage difference, that is not an excuse anymore.
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Today I had a game where the PaK43 saved my ****** life lol, seriously, I love that gun. Elefant on steroids...too bad it gets destroyed so easy... pf
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Its not an "excuse" its simply the design idea behind the unit
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Well, Soviet AT can only improve when that is removed because it doesn't matter how well positioned your AT weapons are, if a P4 or panther or Tiger can just lolkrieg in and kill everything.
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Is it possible the Stug 3 could get buffed bringing it more in line with history while giving the Germans a more reliable out of doctrine tank destroyer besides the Panther?
Perhaps more health and/or armor?
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The StuG III will always be somewhat useless once Su-85s hit the field which can spot for themselves on the move without a doctrinal ability and still have 10 range more. The very least that could be done to StuGs is a range increase to 60 range to fire back (not even having the initiative as they can´t spot the Su-85 while driving to it with the scope upgrade).
I too would like to see the STUG more. I love the little guy. It isnt bad now but kind of suffers from lack of role.
Maybe they will make it better at certain ranges to make it more useful. Because its good as it stands but rather short range for a Casemate tank. I wouldn't see an issue with it being like the SU76 and having long range but no vision. But then the problem of spotting scopes come in...
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The StuG III will always be somewhat useless once Su-85s hit the field which can spot for themselves on the move without a doctrinal ability and still have 10 range more. The very least that could be done to StuGs is a range increase to 60 range to fire back (not even having the initiative as they can´t spot the Su-85 while driving to it with the scope upgrade).
The impotence of the StuG will become more evident when IS-2 and ISU-152 are buffed next patch. They already two-shot them.
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Your saying that as if its a definite. Pretty much all T3 it could be argued it useless when an SU85 hits the field.
Its an 85 fuel tank. It should perform like an 85 fuel tank. If they wanted it to reach out and slap an SU85 nothing wrong with that. They would just have to make it fire BBs like the SU76 or something similar (maybe a little more dunno) but it shouldnt be able to compete well against an SU85.
It can quite easily Murder T34/85s if supported and all of Soviet T3. Just requires work which most dont want to put into it.
Its as hard to counter T3 soviet with a Stug as it is T4 Germany with an SU85 imho.
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Yeah Neo thats kinda what I am saying. But I would like to see it more. So maybe a tweak to make it more appealing will come out of this patch?
People see the Stug and automatically think WORK not that its better at anything than the P4 (even though it is). So its not used.
Its kind of an iconic tank imho. It did better than the Elephants at Kursk. They were murder machines.
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