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18 Apr 2014, 01:39 AM
#201
avatar of Senseo1990

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Well that highly depends on how they implement it: If there were only two ranges (0-50% short range, 50-100% long range) you wouldnt need to "hug" the enemy tank to gain maximal penetration.

Brings a lot of interesting balance possibilities and unit-role redesigns...Panthers having to kite t34/76s to retain their armour advantage (but having to get close and flank SU85s)...pz4s being an equal match to t34/76s at short range...stugs being so much greater at long range compared to pz4s...ISU152s and IS2s being efficient at longer ranges. A lot of potentially great stuff.

If range-dependant tank combat played that much of a role some kind graphical indicator wether your tank is engaging at long or short range would be amazing though. Green crosshair cursor when attacking at short range, red one when attacking a unit that is far away for example.
18 Apr 2014, 03:54 AM
#202
avatar of FestiveLongJohns
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PaK 40 awesome? I agree that pak43 is awesome, but 40? WTF? every game I watch (replay) or from my ally's perspective in a team game or something, it always ENDS on russian hands, always.
Its like you create a pak40 to give it to the enemy, now that is a joke, kill 2 guys from the crew, and voilá, free pak.


If your paks are getting decrewed and stolen every game then I would tend to think that your using them wrong.
18 Apr 2014, 04:03 AM
#203
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

If your paks are getting decrewed and stolen every game then I would tend to think that your using them wrong.


Not really, the Pak 40 is piss easy to decrew, you only need to kill 3/4 of the crew instead of the entire thing. It's also slow and there's no merge so it likely won't be reinforced unless he gets a Half-Track.

The only way to guarantee safety is to keep it back behind your lines, where it'll likely not get attacked, but would also be too far from the action to attack anyway. The main reason people get a Pak 40 is because they can't afford enough Tanks.
18 Apr 2014, 04:16 AM
#204
avatar of akula

Posts: 589

any predictions on WHEN the patch will be released?
18 Apr 2014, 04:21 AM
#205
avatar of FestiveLongJohns
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Not really, the Pak 40 is piss easy to decrew, you only need to kill 3/4 of the crew instead of the entire thing. It's also slow and there's no merge so it likely won't be reinforced unless he gets a Half-Track.

The only way to guarantee safety is to keep it back behind your lines, where it'll likely not get attacked, but would also be too far from the action to attack anyway. The main reason people get a Pak 40 is because they can't afford enough Tanks.


Read the bold part...
18 Apr 2014, 04:44 AM
#206
avatar of FriedRise

Posts: 132

jump backJump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 04:16 AMakula
any predictions on WHEN the patch will be released?


No official word on ETA really aside from hints here and there. "We'll probably dive more into this sometime next week" and "We are hoping to address this imbalance this month" is as concrete as it gets from the Reddit Tuesday, so my guess would be next week?
18 Apr 2014, 10:06 AM
#207
avatar of Kronosaur0s

Posts: 1701



If your paks are getting decrewed and stolen every game then I would tend to think that your using them wrong.



Another dude that thinks I use paks40 lmao, seriously, learn to read my previous posts.
18 Apr 2014, 10:57 AM
#208
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618




Another dude that thinks I use paks40 lmao, seriously, learn to read my previous posts.


You should use them, they're the best AT-gun in the game. If you leave them supported then they won't be decrewed.
Neo
18 Apr 2014, 11:04 AM
#209
avatar of Neo

Posts: 471



You should use them, they're the best AT-gun in the game. If you leave them supported then they won't be decrewed.


This. Pak40 shoots 30% faster than Zis while having the same penetration.

For pure AT, Pak 40 is absolutely awesome.
18 Apr 2014, 11:17 AM
#210
avatar of dasheepeh

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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Apr 2014, 11:04 AMNeo


This. Pak40 shoots 30% faster than Zis while having the same penetration.

For pure AT, Pak 40 is absolutely awesome.


WHY.

Soviet armor is already weaker and German AT is way superior. And now the german PAK shoots faster than the ZiS gun which is the only non - doctrinal reliable AT along with the SU85.

Thats stupid imo.
18 Apr 2014, 11:28 AM
#211
avatar of MarcoRossolini

Posts: 1042

^^ +1

Why is Soviet AT so crap and German AT so good?
18 Apr 2014, 11:31 AM
#212
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618

The next patch will buff Soviet AT, can we stop complaining about it now?
18 Apr 2014, 11:34 AM
#213
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618



WHY.

Soviet armor is already weaker and German AT is way superior. And now the german PAK shoots faster than the ZiS gun which is the only non - doctrinal reliable AT along with the SU85.

Thats stupid imo.


The PaK 40 always had a higher fire rate btw.
18 Apr 2014, 11:35 AM
#214
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

the most stupid thing was that in real life, ZIS-3 had way faster rate of fire than the pak-40.
I would like if for example PAK-40 had 170 penetration,slow rate of fire, ZIS-3 would have 150 pen, but faster rate of fire.
18 Apr 2014, 11:38 AM
#215
avatar of MarcoRossolini

Posts: 1042

The next patch will buff Soviet AT, can we stop complaining about it now?


Wait, so German blitzkrieg is being removed??? Where did you see that?
18 Apr 2014, 11:43 AM
#216
avatar of Zupadupadude

Posts: 618



Wait, so German blitzkrieg is being removed??? Where did you see that?


That's nerfing the Germans not buffing the Soviets. :D

Blitzkrieg isn't being removed, but Soviet AT will be buffed.
18 Apr 2014, 11:55 AM
#217
avatar of dasheepeh

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That's nerfing the Germans not buffing the Soviets. :D

Blitzkrieg isn't being removed, but Soviet AT will be buffed.


As if IS2's and ISU's would need more AT. They do huge damage when they manage to penetrate.
18 Apr 2014, 12:23 PM
#218
avatar of MarcoRossolini

Posts: 1042



That's nerfing the Germans not buffing the Soviets. :D

Blitzkrieg isn't being removed, but Soviet AT will be buffed.



Well, Soviet AT can only improve when that is removed because it doesn't matter how well positioned your AT weapons are, if a P4 or panther or Tiger can just lolkrieg in and kill everything.
18 Apr 2014, 12:28 PM
#219
avatar of Katitof

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As if IS2's and ISU's would need more AT. They do huge damage when they manage to penetrate.

Damage =! DPS.

It doesn't matter if ISU does one big hit, when it will be smoking wreck before being able to shoot another one.
18 Apr 2014, 12:38 PM
#220
avatar of Senseo1990

Posts: 317



WHY.


6 men weapon crew and artillery barrage thats why ;)
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