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Nobody is talking about removing rifle grenades. We're discussing how to make them balanced.
The suggestions are:
1. Prevent them from being fired while suppressed.
2. Reduce range and/or accuracy of rifle grenades if the unit firing them is suppressed.
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Fair enough but it should also apply to the molotovs then. in fact it should apply to all grenades.
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Fair enough but it should also apply to the molotovs then. in fact it should apply to all grenades.
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I would be glad to see riflenades removed if the Maxim would have less than 6 squad members and not change positions so quickly. The riflenade is to compensate for the larger Soviet Squad sizes which the squad can quickly retreat once it's riflenaded.
The same can be said for the mg42 once they get moltoved it's wise to retreat otherwise rng will do it's job. The effectiveness of grenades into Machinegun removal depends on your luck. In a riflenade to maxim situation the effectiveness of the grenade depends on whether or not the other squad members bunch up. Squad members bunching up cannot be controlled the player therefore it requires a bit of luck for the German player to kill most of the mg crew. As for Moltovs and MG42, this relys on rng because sometimes 3 full hp squad members just get wiped instantly or they take little to no damage at all.
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The chance of 3 squad members been wiped instantly is near 0. Rnades always wipe models and still hurt the other ones alot so that another nade or small arms will see them off.
The maxim has quick setup since its arc is so small.
Not sure but with the range increase on vet can the Rnade out range the maxim?
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Rifle nade AoE was buffed. Molotov wasn't changed.
And anyway rifle nade still be better than molotov.
For current stats of them both their cost should be 10 and 35.
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I don't agree.
No other grenade has the massive range of rifle grenades which makes them a much more potent counter to MGs than any other grenade.
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You continually dare to compare the maxim to the mg42. stop doing that because every single issue you posted so far is not valid. the riflenade is balanced and you need to give better reasons why the riflenade is not aloud to counter the maxim.
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You continually dare to compare the maxim to the mg42. stop doing that because every single issue you posted so far is not valid. the riflenade is balanced and you need to give better reasons why the riflenade is not aloud to counter the maxim.
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yeah Neo. how dare you compare maxim and mg 42 together? they are both HMG weapons teams, they are both supposed to counter infantry units... how dare you.
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I laughed so hard when I read that post I decided not to bother to reply. He's either trolling or has no clue about this game...
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Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) Caffeine illegal for WiFi's to ingest in 48 states, 2 colonies, and 1 providences. To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war!
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Riflenade aoe wasnt buffed. it is now simply easy to see where the grenade will land and how many men will be affected by it, and the rest is nonsense, molotovs excel at cc rifles at long range that doesnt make the other better or worse, In fact comparing them is retarded.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Haha, exactly.
I laughed so hard when I read his post I decided not to bother to reply. He's either trolling or has no clue about this game...
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i am trolling. you however have no clue how to balance this game. suffice to say you need to come up with better arguments why the riflenade should cease to be a counter to the maxims except that maxims should not be countered from the front while conveniently forgetting that the maxim in the hands of person with a tiny bit of micro you always be facing it from the front.
On a larger view of things .You empower the maxim to point that maxim spam become completely viable again and completely wreck the early game balance.
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He means early game balance would be ruined for him personally. God forbid he be punished for running into a MG.
What game are you playing? Early game balance is already ruined with pio/agren spam.
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He means early game balance would be ruined for him personally. God forbid he be punished for running into a MG.
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i am trolling. you however have no clue how to balance this game. suffice to say you need to come up with better arguments why the riflenade should cease to be a counter to the maxims except that maxims should not be countered from the front while conveniently forgetting that the maxim in the hands of person with a tiny bit of micro you always be facing it from the front.
On a larger view of things .You empower the maxim to point that maxim spam become completely viable again and completely wreck the early game balance.
maxim in the hands of person with a tiny bit of micro you always be facing it from the front.
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I don't even understand how the most ardent fanboys would be in favour of such obvious disbalance. Do they not get bored of spamming the same units over and over for easy wins?
What game are you playing? Early game balance is already ruined with pio/agren spam.
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