i guarantee it
What the .... is up with the germans ?
10 Apr 2014, 12:26 PM
#161
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They will mess this up...
i guarantee it
i guarantee it
11 Apr 2014, 07:47 AM
#162
Posts: 381
I wouldn't worry about it Soviets!! 'Merica is coming. Don't you remember movies? America saved the world from The Rising Sun and Nazism. There is no way that the Soviets should win without the Americans in COH2!
I hope you guys know sarcasm when you read it. Except the part about Soviets not winning in COH2 without those Damned Yankees.
I hope you guys know sarcasm when you read it. Except the part about Soviets not winning in COH2 without those Damned Yankees.
11 Apr 2014, 14:48 PM
#163
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neither should they make the changes too big lol. It happens quite often that i see 80/20 soviets. Havent played germans at all yet, but agree that germans have all the insta-kill stuff and stuff to finish whole squads on retreat (mp44, g43, lmg), soviets on the other hand are playing with toy guns.
Why does Panzer 4 even come out earlier than T-34, its fucking stronger?
Why does Panzer 4 even come out earlier than T-34, its fucking stronger?
11 Apr 2014, 16:02 PM
#164
Posts: 132
I really wish we had detailed win / loss stats since patch instead of having to rely on "feelings".
PQ said that Soviet had a 60/40 W/L ratio since the first patch and the hotfix brought it down to 52/48:
http://www.twitch.tv/pqumsieh/b/515982849
29:30 mark. Of course this video is 11 days old so who knows what that number looks like now.
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11 Apr 2014, 16:06 PM
#165
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P4 earlier than T34? You must be doing something really wrong, always in my games, I always encounter enemy T34 fighting my shrecks/paks for example...
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11 Apr 2014, 16:20 PM
#166
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PQ said that Soviet had a 60/40 W/L ratio since the first patch and the hotfix brought it down to 52/48:
http://www.twitch.tv/pqumsieh/b/515982849
29:30 mark. Of course this video is 11 days old so who knows what that number looks like now.
Those types of numbers and stadistics are worhtless without more information. For example, what group of players this applies, modes, etc.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Apr 2014, 16:36 PM
#167
10 Posts: 159
P4 earlier than T34? You must be doing something really wrong, always in my games, I always encounter enemy T34 fighting my shrecks/paks for example...
Count the fuel I guess. Soviet tech is more expensive and even if they come at the same time, panzer 4 is still much stronger.
11 Apr 2014, 16:55 PM
#168
Posts: 449
I'd like to see a distribution by rank. Not just win/loss but a win streak distribution as well.
11 Apr 2014, 17:00 PM
#169
Posts: 165
All you have to do is look at the streaks on the ladder to the right--->
Streaks are higher on the German side ... lots more green.
Streaks are higher on the German side ... lots more green.
11 Apr 2014, 17:05 PM
#170
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Count the fuel I guess. Soviet tech is more expensive and even if they come at the same time, panzer 4 is still much stronger.
40/50 T1/T2 + 140 T3 + 85 Tank = 265/275 for first T34
Bare in mind you start with 50 fuel so discount that and we got 215/225 fuel required.
100 fuel from BP only + 25 building + 115 P4 = 240
If you go T1 and or T2 you need to add 10/15/25 to that and discount the 10 (?) fuel you start with and we got 245/255.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Apr 2014, 17:05 PM
#171
Posts: 449
That's not good enough.
Besides, not everyone is actively playing.
Besides, not everyone is actively playing.
11 Apr 2014, 18:30 PM
#172
10 Posts: 159
40/50 T1/T2 + 140 T3 + 85 Tank = 265/275 for first T34
Bare in mind you start with 50 fuel so discount that and we got 215/225 fuel required.
100 fuel from BP only + 25 building + 115 P4 = 240
If you go T1 and or T2 you need to add 10/15/25 to that and discount the 10 (?) fuel you start with and we got 245/255.
So indeed P4 comes earlier
. Quite at the same moment. Then again, AT nades or molotovs are not unnecessary upgradesedit: im sorry. t34 a little earlier. Wehrmacht starts with less fuel?
11 Apr 2014, 18:45 PM
#173
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
So indeed P4 comes earlier
edit: im sorry. t34 a little earlier. Wehrmacht starts with less fuel?
Wehr starts with 20 fuel.
With a T2 skip you can get a P4 out at 230 fuel.
If you get molotovs as soviets a P4 will likely hit the field before your T34/76.
11 Apr 2014, 19:33 PM
#174
10 Posts: 159
Wehr starts with 20 fuel.
With a T2 skip you can get a P4 out at 230 fuel.
If you get molotovs as soviets a P4 will likely hit the field before your T34/76.
Exactly, and to stop a most likely AC, I need to go AT nades, or get forced into a specific commander, or get an AT gun, thus slowing my tech even more.
11 Apr 2014, 23:55 PM
#175
Posts: 1042
So Soviets were overpowered for half a year - since the big MG42 nerf - and nobody of the guys complaining now cared when oorahing straight into MG42s and throwing a Molotov was the standard. Suddenly Germans have strong infantry and it´s blasphemy.
And Grens walking up and rifle-nading a Maxim was never a problem? That's been happening forever.
12 Apr 2014, 01:04 AM
#176
Posts: 15
I would so love it if relic buffed soviets just once just that once better than germans, even for a couple of weeks or so. I would so love to tell all the whining german fanboys to then actually l2p or even better 'learn to use combined arms' 'use cover and micro better' 'learn to use the inherent synergy of units in the ost army'. But seeing relic's balancing record from coh1 through to now I don't think that day will come sigh. (I don't quite blame them seeing as such a big chunk of their coh playerbase has a big hard on for the nazi army and especially german steel so they're just keeping the bigger group happy.)
12 Apr 2014, 01:42 AM
#177
Posts: 419
Can someone tell which units to build to never lose as Germans. I still have a 50 percent win/lose after this patch. Obviously the Soviet players haven't won one single game this patch, so I too would like to use these units of perfection.
12 Apr 2014, 02:54 AM
#178
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Exactly, and to stop a most likely AC, I need to go AT nades, or get forced into a specific commander, or get an AT gun, thus slowing my tech even more.
If he gets an AC/HT or just T2, it get his tech delayed. You don´t need to tech AT nades prior to knowing this.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
12 Apr 2014, 05:02 AM
#179
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Posts: 172
I wouldn't worry about it Soviets!! 'Merica is coming. Don't you remember movies? America saved the world from The Rising Sun and Nazism. There is no way that the Soviets should win without the Americans in COH2!
I hope you guys know sarcasm when you read it. Except the part about Soviets not winning in COH2 without those Damned Yankees.
US will be the biggest carry ever seen in CoH. It will soon be impossible to win against Americans. USA will break the game, forever.
12 Apr 2014, 05:15 AM
#180
Posts: 15
US will be the biggest carry ever seen in CoH. It will soon be impossible to win against Americans. USA will break the game, forever.
oh I was guessing the new o(u)berkommando faction will do what you just said, this game has a big nazi army fan base and unless a lot of people from the land of liberty buy into this game (and actually play merica), I think the devs will be smart enough to keep german players happier as they have done till now....
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