Somthing very strange,,, COH2 Beta footage

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 02:01 AMHS King

yeh balance might not have been 100% perfect but they way the game worked is superior in every facet

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 02:01 AMHS King

they way the game worked is superior in every facet

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 02:22 AMIpKaiFung

No, the current game is far, far better than the Alpha and Beta builds that we were given to play.

Pathing was incredibly bad, one shot squad wipes were even more abundant, visibility was a lot worse, the input lag was far worse and if the beta feedback forums were still available to view it would only serve to invalidate your point about the beta build being superior to the live build.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 01:19 AMHS King

Mate think about it - the beta we are seeing on these videos was before the beta open to everyone to play. we played the new version of the game not the one shown on the vidoe, the version that is the inferior version to the game shown

As soon as i played the beta of coh2 I knew something was wrong, it felt nothing like coh nothing at all.. the movements, the way squads died ect it was all wrong, and when watching those casts it all looks so similar - it didn't click to me fully until now

Watch any og the old casts, none of the issues we knwo are there, no one shot squad wipes, or random deaths, perfect retreats, vehicle movement is great and so is the depth to armour combat all the effects are different man its crazy

Look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7eN0Fol8Hw 44:30 thats all u need to know to see the game was much different, look at the way shocks and grens fight and the nade effects - different game

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 03:46 AMFestiveLongJohns

I've watched the videos, and the physics you talk about are still in the current game. Bodies fly in the air and limbs go all over the place just like the bundle nade in that vid, you just have to have a good cpu to max it.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 02:22 AMIpKaiFung

No, the current game is far, far better than the Alpha and Beta builds that we were given to play.

Pathing was incredibly bad, one shot squad wipes were even more abundant, visibility was a lot worse, the input lag was far worse and if the beta feedback forums were still available to view it would only serve to invalidate your point about the beta build being superior to the live build.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 04:06 AMHS King

I just watched hours of the old beta casts pre beta public release and none of those issues are there at all - in fact the exact opposite is true, the pathing is great, units respond instantly and vehicle combat is far far better than it is now.

ALl the effects look and act better in game and there is advanced terrain destruction - I have seen no squad wipes and inf combat is clearly superior in the video version of the game.

Cover works and yeh I cant agree with what you are saying. You are getting what I am saying mixed up you are thinking of the beta we all played and I am talking about the videos I posted specifically - two different things in my opinion.

Just watch one of them for like 20 mins and you will see what I mean -go to a point in the game where there is vehicle combat and you will see

Jump back to quoted post20 Nov 2012, 20:22 PMPr3d4t0rS

I played all versions of the alpha and beta build and they were all dog shit compared to current build we have now. You can't possibly say that you can determine unit responsiveness from a video of a replay where you cant see the time difference from click to action nor can you see the effort put in by the players to over come the dog shit vehicle pathing in the alpha and beta builds. So unless you actually PLAYED those old builds lately you can't say one is better than the other with regards to the points I have addressed.

The graphical effects are subjective, to me they don't look any different.

Your comment about "cover working" is dubious because the cover modifiers have not been changed ever, from alpha to now unless you can elaborate on your comment.

The guys who were allowed to release pre-public beta footage also didn't have a special build.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2014, 06:52 AMDietBrownie

Lowering down quality of graphics isn't optimization, it's watering down graphics. Get it right.

The in-game sounds better. Listen to the strafing run at 27 minutes. The mortars had a whistling sound to it as well. At 13:11 minutes with the At Gun barrage. And at 49:45 seconds, just overall eargasm from the ISU-152. Perhaps Relic lost these files when transferring to Sega, who knows.

But the UI, balance, and the commander system with tiers just made me want to vomit. It's sad that we lost superior graphics, because to be honest coh2 doesn't look like a 2014 game at all. But at the same time we lost the bad balance and the terrible UI.