Ram

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 15:26 PMrezzzzen

Make ram dependant on whereyou ram,
frontal ram - 100% gun damaged, no engine crit + some small amount of damage > tank is basically out of action but you can backup and repair
rear ram - 100% damaged engine , no damage on gun, tank is a sitting duck but can defend himself
thoughts?

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 18:35 PMZ3r07

dude, if you are really close to your enemy's tank, first of all he can't ram you, then if you see him backing up, you either follow him to stay close and avoid getting rammed or you back off as far as possible because that is the SIGN that he will ram you, then if he follows you, thats when you bring in your grenadiers that are suppose to be near by cuz you don't leave a tank unsupported right ? and faust it.



You see some high level players getting their T-34s fausted, you simply can't just attack whenever you want with your tanks and hope for the best, keep them in background until the right moment comes.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 18:38 PMgriezell

so ram is high risk high reward. can we say that about blitz as wel?

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 18:39 PMstichy

Ram adds allot of interesting game play in soviets VS German tanks. just upping the t34 would remove all this game play. I imagine its frustrating for newer people to wait half the game to get a tiger just to have it rammed but at some point you'll learn to plan for this kind of things and not count on one big tank.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 19:34 PMJaigen

Gameplay or not its severely unbalanced

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 19:51 PMwishfire89

What a retarded suggestion. German armor is already OP and T34s are made of glass. Let's make them even more useless because my precious Panther needed some repair.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:20 PMAlbus

High-risk high-reward abilities like Ram which are completely based on RNG shouldn't be in a game aiming to be an eSport.

Although a certain amount of RNG in the game makes company of heroes, well, Company of heroes, I think Ram considerably overstepped that boundary. It's not based on skill at all and there's nothing you can do to influence the outcome of a ram.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:23 PMKatitof

Not a single relic employee ever said that coh2 aims to be esport.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:23 PMKatitof

And mines are skill? AT nades/pfauses are skill? Grenades? Do you expect a minigame or popup quizz to show up before activating the ability? Its friggin RTS, you click ability, select target and either hit or miss(unless its pfaust/at nades which are always hit).

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:27 PMAlbus

Every game developer wants their game to become an eSport. People who want this game to have longevity want the game to become an eSport. Hell, the game doesn't even need to be an esport; people will play it competitively anyway. How can people expect to play a game competitively, however, when an ability like ram exists in which the tide of a game can be turned completely without any skill input what so ever?

The outcome of a PFaust or an ATnade will rarely influence the outcome of a game anywhere near as much as Ram. With ram, you could potentially be knocking out an extremely expensive piece of armor your enemy has saved up for for a good 10 minutes or so whereas with a PFaust or ATnade, you're, at the most, simply delaying it.

I don't know what mines have to do with anything. Placement of a mine is completely skill based. :/ RNG doesn't randomly put mines on the map for you.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:20 PMAlbus

there's nothing you can do to influence the outcome of a ram.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:34 PMhorizontal_hold

I often think of the Jay-Z line when I begin to reply to a forum post, "A wise man told me not to argue with fools, because people from a distance can't tell who is who."

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:34 PMhorizontal_hold

Smokescreen, Blitz at vet 1, mines, fausts, paks behind your lines, learning the range of a ram and keeping your distance. If you have decent micro the engine will overheat, and your opponent will be -85 fuel.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 17:59 PMJaigen

If the soviet player is an idiot i would agree with this strat

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 17:59 PMJaigen

and then they will die because they take 300% damage increase and it will not safe your very expensive tank

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 17:59 PMJaigen

cost efficiency at its max you spend 2 times more mp fuel and ammo on dedicated AT units to kill generalist units. nothing wrong here people

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 17:59 PMJaigen

Tanks dont come equipped with vet 1.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 17:59 PMJaigen

no it really isn't by the time ram starts you have a few seconds to respond to it

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 17:59 PMJaigen

Their is no AT problem because tier 3 should not be able to counter german heavies. panthers in vcoh could kill 3 shermans and where the epitome of dedicated AT . fireflies could do the same thing to p4's. and yet in this game some cheap ass tank is able to neutralize german tanks? its simply unbalanced

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:40 PMAlbus

Quote-unquote "Decent micro". "Hurdy durr The old Tiger Ace wasn't OP. Just use decent micro. Hurdy Durr 1CP guard snipers? No prob dude just use your decent micro Hurdy Durrdy Hurdy Durrrrrrrrrr"

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2014, 20:47 PMKronosaur0s

I dont have any problems when Ram disables german medium tanks like the ostwind, stug, panther, panzer 4 or brummbar. But disabling a heavy and expensive vehicle like the Tiger or Elefant, to me, thats just silly and shouldnt exist.