The tiger ace syndrome

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 10:00 AMPorygon

I disagree buy vet system break the game because Soviet got too much one click (or even no need to click anything) wipe out a squad or a vehicle.

How can Ostheer survive in late game without buying vet while so many times Soviet just ridiculously wipe out vet 3 stuff, that easily?

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 10:32 AMwuff

I didn't want this thread to focus on the abilities of the commander but how the tiger ace and its counterpart will affect commander variation.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 12:24 PMCardboard Tank

Wait! What? They are going to introduce an ace for Russians too? What tank?

If that´s really true, this game is beyond any help. Just look at the German aces score and then the Russian "aces" score - that´s just beyond comparison. This game is totally moving to bullshit-land. This isn´t an early war game where a KV locked down an area - this is supposed to represent 1944.

I´m already pissed about the ram ability, more range on SU-85 and mark target which screws up tank combat. But if that´s really going to happen, I doubt I will be playing to the extend I´m doing now. It´s not only small mistakes representing the factions... it seems to move to utter shit which actually has nothing to do with WW2, except some models. Give Germans anti-tank-knives! They never existed but are needed for balance of course.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 14:11 PMGreeb

That is not a RTS anymore, is just a crappy P2W where you can buy units that give you a second chance to win a lost game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 15:31 PMsevenfour

As for the gameplay - I fully share OP`s concerns. I own the Tiger Ace commander, it`s complete BS and should be changed/removed from the game. Adding even more similar **** is a slap in the face of the people who like this game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 14:16 PMKhan

Yeah, if this Soviet Ace BS ever shows up, I'm about done with this game. And future Relic titles as well. What a way to F*CK up the legacy of the greatest RTS of all time.
Greedy pigs.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 15:31 PMsevenfour

For people worried about realism: there is none already. This game is about as unrealistic as possible. And I am not talking just about little things like sniper flare in a blizzard, ramming the back of the tank to destroy the gun or magically appearing LMGs etc. but even the very core of the game. Just look at 2 squads shooting at each other from a distance of few feet (even without cover) for as long as it takes for the RNG to roll a hit to kill someone... most of them should be dead on the ground almost immediately in such a scenario (for example Men of War games are a lot more accurate in this area). I mean at this point you can add flying tanks, sorcerers or mechagodzilla in the game, it doesn`t matter.

As for the gameplay - I fully share OP`s concerns. I own the Tiger Ace commander, it`s complete BS and should be changed/removed from the game. Adding even more similar **** is a slap in the face of the people who like this game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 15:31 PMsevenfour

For people worried about realism: there is none already. This game is about as unrealistic as possible. And I am not talking just about little things like sniper flare in a blizzard, ramming the back of the tank to destroy the gun or magically appearing LMGs etc. but even the very core of the game. Just look at 2 squads shooting at each other from a distance of few feet (even without cover) for as long as it takes for the RNG to roll a hit to kill someone... most of them should be dead on the ground almost immediately in such a scenario (for example Men of War games are a lot more accurate in this area). I mean at this point you can add flying tanks, sorcerers or mechagodzilla in the game, it doesn`t matter.

As for the gameplay - I fully share OP`s concerns. I own the Tiger Ace commander, it`s complete BS and should be changed/removed from the game. Adding even more similar **** is a slap in the face of the people who like this game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 15:43 PMwuff

Could the troop training ability only give one star per use, currently many units achieve two stars per use.

What do you think?

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 16:12 PMDurendal

mechagodzilla OP! fuck this game!

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 15:43 PMwuff

Could the troop training ability only give one star per use, currently many units achieve two stars per use.

What do you think?

Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2014, 16:25 PMwooof

units dont recieve a set amount of stars. the ability gives a fixed amount of xp, so the amount of vet is then based on the cost of the unit. grens get vet 3 in 1 use. pgrens only get vet 2. panthers require 2 uses to get vet 1. ive really never felt vet units are a problem. youre investing heavily into a single unit. this reduces the number of tanks you can have on the field and also delays teching. the only thing i find annoying is vet 3 mortars early on, but its nothing you cant handle.

also, i dont see the point in discussing commanders that havent been announced. one, you have no idea when/if theyll show up and two, you have no idea how they function. just seems like itll get people worked up, potentially over nothing.