Hotfix 1.0.5 - March 6, 2023

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 09:38 AMOKSpitfire

I'm right in thinking there's no combined arms buff from the kradschützen right? I can understand why, think it might get a bit oppressive if it had it as well as its vet 1 ability.

Seperately, what do you guys think of the autocannon/mortar upgrade for the 250? I find the mortar is nice but the autocannon doesn't really seem that worth it, requires a significant amount of careful micro in exchange for fairly mediocre damage.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 10:24 AMKatitof

We really do need a page explaining vet and all these passive abilities in details.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 11:55 AMaerafield

Yup the Kradschützen, Mortar HT, Recovery Vehicle, Stuka and the 2.5 Tonne truck are the only vehicles that don't provide the CA bonus to Pgrens and Panzerpios.

Now you don't "have" to build a 250 from the beginning and can wait for 250 call-in after 6min or Flakvierling, especially on a campy map where the 250 can only attack frontally... but imo that requires some very cautios gameplay with the help from Kradschützen support which has a decent MG34 and amazing sight (built in spotting scopes).

The combat halftracks used to be okay but last patch Relic ninja nerfed them for whatever reason by increasing upgrade cost from 50 to 75 ammo.

Honestly just skip the combat HTs and just park the 250s in the background for CA, small flank recon and their medical supplies. The mortar HT is hot garbage compared to ISG anyway and doesn't provide CA as mentioned earlier, and the 2cm version is a meme in teamgames.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 13:23 PMOKSpitfire

Thanks for the info Aerafield. I'll have to try the ISG a bit more, I must confess i've barely used it at all.

Oh and what do we suppose are the chances of Relic making a helpful unit/unit ability wiki that stays up to date. Zero? lol.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 14:56 PMaerafield

Yeah don't judge the ISG by its CoH2 performance (not that it was bad in CoH2), but now it's like a packhowitzer that fires mini nukes across the entire map

And sadly I have no idea about an upcoming ingame wiki

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 07:48 AMKatitof

True about dingo, brit players denial about it is only thing holding DAK in early game now.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 18:23 PMdonofsandiego

Lmfao. My brit teammate didn't believe me when I told him that the dingo beats the 250. We were having a convo about how ass the AT rifles were, and he said: "brits don't have a counter to the 250 early game any more because of this."

Then I said "build a dingo". He didn't believe me, and went totally silent when we tested it in a custom game and the dingo shat on the 250

Only knew that one thanks to you, Katitof. Kudos.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 01:57 AMaerafield

Panzergren combined arms provides +20% accuracy, movement speed, ability range and -20% received accuracy, it literally turns them from Conscripts into vet 2 Penal Battalions from the get go. If you don't utilize this feature then just stop playing DAK because you're playing this faction completely wrong. And again, after 5+min into the game it's not that crazy hard to park a 250 or flakvierling near your Pgren "blob" (2 squads is ideal number, vs hardcore spammers you need 3; DAK is about vehicle snowballing and not inf spam) and Heal Truck + weapon teams

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 14:56 PMaerafield

Yeah don't judge the ISG by its CoH2 performance (not that it was bad in CoH2), but now it's like a packhowitzer that fires mini nukes across the entire map

And sadly I have no idea about an upcoming ingame wiki

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2023, 15:03 PMGarrett

The range on that thing is also insane, it's basically a full-blown arty piece in all but name...

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2023, 14:25 PMPip

I certainly hope that the next balance pass makes a lot of changes to Skillplanes and offmap artillery. The DAK AT loiter in particular is utterly ridiculous, there's no justification for it being able to delete vehicles with no counterplay.

Lelic appear to have not learned from CoH2; offmaps should NOT be game deciding, they should be utility tools.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2023, 15:00 PMPatFenis

While I agree that they are overtuned af with deleting entire health bars of most vehicles in one pass, its far fetched to say you cant do anything about it.
You can see the enemie's battlegroup in the player list (not sure if intended, maybe for unranked matches it is) and as USF you have access to the hands-down best AA, which even shoots down strafes before they manage to shoot.

Although, it railroads you into certain tech buildings and battlegroups (UKF, AA truck sucks dog water) which is poopy game design.


Edit: Naturally the UKF Anti-tank loiter for 120 munis (lol) is also batshit crazy strong.