I think Ost pioneers should lose their sight bonus

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 09:24 AMEsxile

Once vet3, they are more durable than any other allied counterpart except for Cons that are at the same level of stupid design made by the modding team.
Modding team gave Ostheer most durable tanks associated with most durable mainline infantry and we're wondering why only Soviet which have been modified the same way by the same team is capable to fight it at tournament level.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 10:54 AMFelixTHM

Once again an Esxile post that contains excessive trolling and completely fake claims.

https://coh2.serealia.ca/#10

Riflemen: 5 man, 0.63 target size
Tommies: 5 man, 0.66 target size
Grenadiers: 4 man, 0.91 target target size with 20% damage reduction. They have the same effective hp vs explosives and way less vs small arms.

As usual, Esxile talking forum-approved rubbish. Yes, Grenadiers are really strong and imo the best mainline at most skill brackets. No, Grenadiers are not more durable than Allied mainlines because of literal stats.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 10:54 AMFelixTHM

Grenadiers: 4 man, 0.91 target target size with 20% damage reduction. They have the same effective hp vs explosives and way less vs small arms.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 12:56 PMleithianz

This part is not true AFAIK.

It is ineffeciant than less target size vs. small arms, but much effective vs explosives such as tank shots. Because those deals not with target hit but rather with radius damage. So better RA doesn't effect much vs. explosives.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 13:36 PMVipper

He is talking about effective hit point vs explosives

In this case riflemen and tommies with 5 entities and 80 hp per entity have 400 EHP while grenadiers with 4 models 80 HP and 80% damage reduction also have the same EHP.

Grenadier and allied squad do have the same EHP vs explosives it is correct.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 13:42 PMleithianz

Oh, I see.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 04:57 AMCODGUY

Because OST is the most babied faction on the game. They've been given so many advantages over the years that they were never intended to have.

Right now the best stock infantry units belong to OST. The LMG42 Grens with the early Panzergrens is more effective than BAR Riflemen, Bren Tommies, or Penals/7-man cons. It even beats out the Volks/Strums/Ober combo due to timing on Obers (and the lack of dual schreks).

This is hilarious when combined with the best MG in the game, T0 only 260mp. Mortar, and sniper too.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 09:24 AMEsxile

Once vet3, they are more durable than any other allied counterpart except for Cons that are at the same level of stupid design made by the modding team.
Modding team gave Ostheer most durable tanks associated with most durable mainline infantry and we're wondering why only Soviet which have been modified the same way by the same team is capable to fight it at tournament level.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 10:54 AMFelixTHM

Once again an Esxile post that contains excessive trolling and completely fake claims.

https://coh2.serealia.ca/#10

Riflemen: 5 man, 0.63 target size
Tommies: 5 man, 0.66 target size
Grenadiers: 4 man, 0.91 target target size with 20% damage reduction. They have the same effective hp vs explosives and way less vs small arms.

As usual, Esxile talking forum-approved rubbish. Yes, Grenadiers are really strong and imo the best mainline at most skill brackets. No, Grenadiers are not more durable than Allied mainlines because of literal stats.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 15:21 PMEsxile

Lol so much hate I can feel it, I feel... empowered, I dominate you, you're like a little dog glapping for some attention .

I was still right my little dog.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 15:21 PMEsxile

Lol so much hate I can feel it, I feel... empowered, I dominate you, you're like a little dog glapping for some attention .

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 15:57 PMBasedSecretary

What the fuck are you talking about bro?

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 16:01 PMProtos Angelus

https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 09:24 AMEsxile

Once vet3, they are more durable than any other allied counterpart except for Cons that are at the same level of stupid design made by the modding team.

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2022, 16:03 PMBasedSecretary

This thread is the epitome of cope.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2022, 13:36 PMVipper

He is talking about effective hit point vs explosives

In this case riflemen and tommies with 5 entities and 80 hp per entity have 400 EHP while grenadiers with 4 models 80 HP and 80% damage reduction also have the same EHP.

Grenadier and allied squad do have the same EHP vs explosives it is correct.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2022, 03:52 AMy3ivan

wow thats a massive buff to grenadier.

that means each grenadier model has an effective 96 HP vs explosives. for comparison each infantry model has an effective 80HP vs explosives. mortars deal 80 dmg per direct shot, thus grens can survive a direct mortar shot.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2022, 03:52 AMy3ivan

mortars deal 80 dmg per direct shot

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2022, 02:59 AMdonofsandiego

Mortars didn't deal 80 damage to infantry when I joined in like 2019 so I can't even imagine when the last time you played was lmao.

EDIT: to infantry of course.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2022, 06:49 AMEsxile

Mortars deal 80 dmg per shot.