Am I crazy or is relic bunch of assholes?

DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR
Disruptive behaviors directed towards other players or Relic staff will not be tolerated. These include, but are not limited to, perpetrating, promoting, glorifying, or advocating for anything listed below:

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• Impersonation of any community member, public figure, or Relic staff member.
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https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/2-welcome-info/threads/1-company-of-heroes-community-code-of-conduct-code-of-heroes


So no Relic does not seem like a bunch of assholes, but rather just a company that is policing their code of conduct that you agreed upon to play the game. Maybe stop trolling for once.

https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/2-welcome-info/threads/1-company-of-heroes-community-code-of-conduct-code-of-heroes


So no Relic does not seem like a bunch of assholes, but rather just a company that is policing their code of conduct that you agreed upon to play the game. Maybe stop trolling for once.

1) refer to what I said to spanky 2) Separate issue if we even wannna dispute this rule, which name is taken as players, which isnt? you have to be "famous" so then yuor name is instant watermark? Then ban 5 other luvnests and 10 other kimbos in automatch? But that is of course not happening.

So maybe you stop trolling, instead of supporting a 1 -month ban for using a taken username.

I saw your stream and found your use of his name childish and stupid.
Is it worth a temporary ban? .... not sure
It might help prevent you and others do stuff like that. That is a good thing.

Reading your response here I think the ban is right, as you still seem to think it is funny or something like that. I do not get it.
And I am sure you have another account, so........how terrible is it really.

Ignoring the question whether it is appropriate to ban someone for using someone else's IGN for a bit, the fact that it is clearly stated in the Code of Conduct as a bannable offense shouldn't leave anyone baffled as to why they get banned if they do it. I mean, this is kind of like driving w/o a license for ages and having the audacity to complain about getting caught one day - sure, a lot of other people are doing it, but the fact that it is poorly enforced doesn't mean it's not punishable. Not to mention calling those who enforce it assholes for doing so.

* Impersonation of any community member, public figure, or Relic staff member.

How many people playing as "Dave" got banned when Dave started winning high level matches? I think there were like 27 people playing as Dave. I even had VonIvan ask Dave to change his name on stream because there were too many. I suggested Pearl Fireworks. My suggestion was rejected.

Just using a name (Steam allows you) should not be a ban. That is not necessarily impersonating. I would argue you need to do more than that for a game ban.

In this particular case, Kimbo stated he was streaming and that may have been the nail in the coffin for him. Streaming the impersonation shows intent.

Sorry for flaming here, now that I have reflection, some stuff I say might be rude. I could put it way way nicer>

Just using a name (Steam allows you) should not be a ban. That is not necessarily impersonating.

Deliberately changing your name into someone else's, especially a by now well known person's and doing it on stream, is different from coincidentally having the same (generic) name as someone else. This was a deliberate attempt at trolling/impersonation, and the code of conduct clearly states the consequences for doing that. Doing dumb stuff gets you banned.

Now I am not responsible for the bans (and the person who is has NDA), so I am mostly restricted to my assumptions, but I am 95% confident they are accurate.

I am pretty sure that this ingame information about the ban is from a pool of pre-written texts that Relic can choose, and I think "playing with a banned cheater's smurf" is not available in that pool

This Luvnest impersonation was probably 5% of the reason for the ban, so they picked it. If it was even more than these 2 reasons, no idea. I would say "ask Relic" now but to my knowledge, a game developer is not forced to give you the exact reason(s) for a multiplayer suspension *shrug*

I have a little question for you to use your brain my friend, use it sometimes.

you guys have issues with using logical thinking, no offense.

It's really funny that this is coming from you, because that were my thoughts when you decided to team up with a Seeking smurf and even stream it on Twitch. Then play victim afterwards and tunnel vision on the "player impersonation" as the only reason for the ban.

Wtf were you thinking was gonna happen, especially after what you saw in the Inca 4v4 cup two months ago. You are lucky if they don't ban you from Master League for a long time.

For everyone: it's Relic's rules, follow them.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you think about their rules or banning tendencies. So yes, that means no more trolling Barton style of other people's usn.

Now I am not responsible for the bans (and the person who is has NDA), so I am mostly restricted to my assumptions, but I am 95% confident they are accurate.

I am pretty sure that this ingame information about the ban is from a pool of pre-written texts that Relic can choose, and I think "playing with a banned cheater's smurf" is not available in that pool

This Luvnest impersonation was probably 5% of the reason for the ban, so they picked it. If it was even more than these 2 reasons, no idea. I would say "ask Relic" now but to my knowledge, a game developer is not forced to give you the exact reason(s) for a multiplayer suspension *shrug*





It's really funny that this is coming from you, because that were my thoughts when you decided to team up with a Seeking smurf and even stream it on Twitch. Then play victim afterwards and tunnel vision on the "player impersonation" as the only reason for the ban.

Wtf were you thinking was gonna happen, especially after what you saw in the Inca 4v4 cup two months ago. You are lucky if they don't ban you from Master League for a long time.

and you are lucky that with your brain you can properly function and get a job (assuming you have one). And your 95% assumption or whatever, is wrong i had a tag saying kimbo in the window, so its not pre-written. monkey papa, o o a a

and there is no rule saying i shall get banned for that

[...]This Code of Heroes, though non-exhaustive, sets out the standards and behavior that we expect from our community. Additionally, we have provided guidance as to how Relic will respond to inappropriate, threatening and/or offensive actions or behaviors.



Relic reserves the right to discontinue provision of the forum and/or any official platform for the Company of Heroes franchise at any time. Further, Relic may remove members and/or content from the game or community where it violates this Code of Heroes.[...]

DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR:

• Impersonation of any community member, public figure, or Relic staff member.

https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/2-welcome-info/threads/1-company-of-heroes-community-code-of-conduct-code-of-heroes

https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/2-welcome-info/threads/1-company-of-heroes-community-code-of-conduct-code-of-heroes

I meant the "playing with a banned player"

I meant the "playing with a banned player"

By the clues provided, you've got banned for impersonation of another player, not for playing with another ban avoider.

By the clues provided, you've got banned for impersonation of another player, not for playing with another ban avoider.

yeah, yeah, aerafield claims its 5% reason so im just responding to him.

i had a tag saying kimbo in the window

please Kimbo god, help me. I can't find the word Kimbo in here

yeah, yeah, aerafield claims its 5% reason so im just responding to him.

Read again what I wrote, I am not claiming anything. I am assuming. That's a big difference

https://wikidiff.com/claim/assume#:~:text=Claim%20vs%20Assume%20-%20What%27s%20the%20difference%3F%20is,made%20for%20something%20%28eg%20claim%20ownership%2C%20claim%20victory%29.

Deliberately changing your name into someone else's, especially a by now well known person's and doing it on stream, is different from coincidentally having the same (generic) name as someone else. This was a deliberate attempt at trolling/impersonation, and the code of conduct clearly states the consequences for doing that. Doing dumb stuff gets you banned.

That is horseshit.

Nothing in the code of conduct states that these rules are only enforced if you stream with a changed name on twitch.

Also you conveniently didn’t talk about the other dudes on ladder who have had the name “Luvnest” for a while. Do they also get banned for impersonating Luvnest?

Furthermore, impersonating someone requires more than just changing your steam name to their own. Kimbo still had his own pfp, twitch name and never claimed to be the actual Luvnest. By your logic, might as well ban people who have claimed in chat to be someone else even if it was tongue in cheek.

I agree with all this.

impersonating someone requires more than just changing your steam name to their own.

It requires whatever Relic wants it to require. They reserved the right to judge on a per case basis. Apparently deliberately changing your name on stream is enough. Kimbo's other activities probably didn't exactly help to give him the benefit of the doubt here either.

please Kimbo god, help me. I can't find the word Kimbo in here






Read again what I wrote, I am not claiming anything. I am assuming. That's a big difference

https://wikidiff.com/claim/assume#:~:text=Claim%20vs%20Assume%20-%20What%27s%20the%20difference%3F%20is,made%20for%20something%20%28eg%20claim%20ownership%2C%20claim%20victory%29.

OK i show you one of my smurfs banned from back in the day, just because im a nice guy.

It requires whatever Relic wants it to require. They reserved the right to judge on a per case basis. Apparently deliberately changing your name on stream is enough. Kimbo's other activities probably didn't exactly help to give him the benefit of the doubt here either.

It’s fine to say that Relic decides what is what based on their judgement but please don’t go into details on things you don’t know about what is bannable or not because impersonating someone is a massive grey area and Kimbo has made some good points about it. It’s not black and white at all.

It’s fine to say that Relic decides what is what based on their judgement but please don’t go into details on things you don’t know about what is bannable or not because impersonating someone is a massive grey area and Kimbo has made some good points about it. It’s not black and white at all.

yes its pretty much like this