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17 Jul 2021, 18:25 PMjagd wölfe

The main reason I still think that the in game Wehrmacht is a mix of DAK and Wehrmacht assets is (other than 4 combat infantry squads for a single faction) the Marder 3 being there despite being logically the only tank destroyer option in the game files that could fit the DAK, while the Nashorn was only used in Italy and is not present in the current build

Thing is. Wehrmacht has battlegroups and combat commanders, which are most likely will be something simular to the hammer\anvil of UKF in CoH2. Right now in alpha its clearly unfinished and you clearly have everything thrown togeather.

In other words Wehr might aswell have all inf units which they do have right now, but they all wont be buildable at the same time since they will be locked behind combat commander selection.

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17 Jul 2021, 19:29 PMGachiGasm

Thing is. Wehrmacht has battlegroups and combat commanders, which are most likely will be something simular to the hammer\anvil of UKF in CoH2. Right now in alpha its clearly unfinished and you clearly have everything thrown togeather.

In other words Wehr might aswell have all inf units which they do have right now, but they all wont be buildable at the same time since they will be locked behind combat commander selection.

But if those Battlegroup provide each with a different ability to all those units then how are those units gonna be limited by Battlegroup choice?

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17 Jul 2021, 19:50 PMjagd wölfe

But if those Battlegroup provide each with a different ability to all those units then how are those units gonna be limited by Battlegroup choice?

They are not the same thing. Battlegroup is a CoH2 like commander\doctrine, with abilities for CP and so on.

Field commanders for Wehr seems to be like a global chose\upgrade which affects the faction, units and their abilities. So in other words you can have lets say Breakthought battlegroup and defensive field commander, or Breakthought and spec ops field commander.

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17 Jul 2021, 18:25 PMjagd wölfe

The main reason I still think that the in game Wehrmacht is a mix of DAK and Wehrmacht assets is (other than 4 combat infantry squads for a single faction) the Marder 3 being there despite being logically the only tank destroyer option in the game files that could fit the DAK, while the Nashorn was only used in Italy and is not present in the current build

The Nashorn was also used on the Eastern Front:

And none of the Italian units seem to be in the current build of the game either even if they are mentioned and exist in the file so it makes sense for me at least that they're either probably part of the DAK or some other Italian doctrine or Commander for the current Wehrmacht.

But yeah, it makes sense for Italian units to be present in both Armies since I'm guessing we won't be getting them as a separate faction, similar to how the Australians, Canadians and Indians are going to be probably done as well as there's probably not enough content as as I know at least that the Aussies and Cannucks used mostly British equipment, can't say for the Indians, while it was pretty much the same with the Italians and German equipment, plus officers.

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BATTLEGROUPS

So, lets look at battlegroups. While I was speculating that battlegroups have choses (or maybe you customize them a bit before the game), its not confirmed, to make it easier I'il mark abilities as choses and wings.

German

Breakthought

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - rapid constuction
Ability 1 chose 2 - Opel blitz
Ability 2 chose 1 - Blitzcrieg
Ability 2 chose 2 - PIV CMD
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Tiger

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Assault grenadiers
Ability 2 chose 1 - Breakthought
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Smoke bombing
Ability 3 chose 1 - Assault group
Ability 3 chose 2 - Incendiary bombing

Coastal defence

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Coastal reserve
Ability 1 chose 2 - Officer
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - ---
Ability 3 chose 1 - L6\40
Ability 3 chose 2 - Semovente 75/18

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Withdraw
Ability 1 chose 2 - artillery flares
Ability 2 chose 1 - man the defenses
Ability 2 chose 2 - Sectory artillery
Ability 3 chose 1 - Emergency supplies
Ability 3 chose 2 - Coastal batteries

Defence

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Weapon supply bunker
Ability 1 chose 2 - Reinforce bunker
Ability 2 chose 1 - Early warning
Ability 2 chose 2 - Defensive Artillery
Ability 3 chose 1 - White phosphorus barrage
Ability 3 chose 2 - Heary artillery barrage

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Fortress pioneers
Ability 1 chose 2 - ---
Ability 2 chose 1 - SdfKZ9 recovery vehicle
Ability 2 chose 2 - Flak Halftrak
Ability 3 chose 1 - l6\40 flame tank
Ability 3 chose 2 - Nashorn tank destroyer

Italian artillery - CLEARLY UNFINISHED

left

Ability 1 - artillery saturation
Ability 2 - bulwark
Ability 3 - Obice 210 emplacement
Ability 4 - Sector warking
Ability 5 - Zero in

right

Ability 1 - Cannone da 105 howi
Ability 2 - Guastatori
Ability 3 - Heavy weapon training
Ability 4 - Scorhed earth
Ability 5 - Sectory artillery

Luftwaffe

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Infantry Reserves
Ability 1 chose 2 - Fallshimpioneers
Ability 2 chose 1 - Weapon drop
Ability 2 chose 2 - Flak emplacement
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Flak 88 AT gun

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Recon run
Ability 1 chose 2 - loiter mark target
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Fallshimjaegers
Ability 3 chose 1 - Butterfly bombs
Ability 3 chose 2 - Stuka dive bomb

Mechanaized

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Cables (?)
Ability 1 chose 2 - Raid
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Signal relay
Ability 3 chose 1 - Wespe
Ability 3 chose 2 - Light artillery

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Crew repair
Ability 1 chose 2 - Smoke canisters
Ability 2 chose 1 - Stug assault group
Ability 2 chose 2 - Halftrak towed flak
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Panther

Mountain

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Tactical sprint
Ability 1 chose 2 - Med supply drop
Ability 2 chose 1 - Mountain senses
Ability 2 chose 2 - Flashlight bombs
Ability 3 chose 1 - Zeal
Ability 3 chose 2 - Cas anti-hecile loiter

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Gebirgsjaegers
Ability 1 chose 2 - ---
Ability 2 chose 1 - Kettenkrad ATG
Ability 2 chose 2 - Kettenkrad LeIG
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - 8 rad

USF

Airborn

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Paradrop HMG
Ability 1 chose 2 - Med supply drop
Ability 2 chose 1 - Paradrop AT gun
Ability 2 chose 2 - Munition supply drop
Ability 3 chose 1 - --
Ability 3 chose 2 - Rocket strike

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Recon leiter
Ability 1 chose 2 - Smoke
Ability 2 chose 1 - Paratroopers
Ability 2 chose 2 - ---
Ability 3 chose 1 - Air dropped rainforcements
Ability 3 chose 2 - Carpet bombing

Armored

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Assault Engis
Ability 1 chose 2 - Veteran Crew
Ability 2 chose 1 - Field Repairs
Ability 2 chose 2 - Recovery Vehicle
Ability 3 chose 1 - --
Ability 3 chose 2 - War Machine

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Fast deploy
Ability 1 chose 2 - Strenght in steel
Ability 2 chose 1 - Scott
Ability 2 chose 2 - Seek and destoy
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Easy 8 task force

Infantry

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Rapid training
Ability 1 chose 2 - Rapid responce
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Rangers
Ability 3 chose 1 - Manpower
Ability 3 chose 2 - Emergency combat group

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Defensive operations
Ability 1 chose 2 - Mortar pit
Ability 2 chose 1 - Off map artillery
Ability 2 chose 2 - 240 off map arty
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - 105mm howi

Light Mechanized

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Jeep skirts
Ability 1 chose 2 - Raid
Ability 2 chose 1 - Refit
Ability 2 chose 2 - Free mech center
Ability 3 chose 1 - Priority munitions
Ability 3 chose 2 - Priority fuel

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - CMD halftrack
Ability 1 chose 2 - M20 utility car
Ability 2 chose 1 - Chaffee
Ability 2 chose 2 - M3 Lee
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Priest

Special operations

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - m29 weasal
Ability 1 chose 2 - m29 weasal with packhowi
Ability 2 chose 1 - Mark targer vehicle
Ability 2 chose 2 - M83 cluster bombs
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Whizbang (cali like sherman)

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Raiding Flares
Ability 1 chose 2 - Smoke screen
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Devils Brigade
Ability 3 chose 1 - Assault operation
Ability 3 chose 2 - Air Resupply

UKF

Australian Defense -- unfinished

left

Ability 1 - 2pdr at gun
Ability 2 - base howi
Ability 3 - Entrenchement
Ability 4 - Heavy mortar
Ability 5 - mine surplus

right

Ability 1 - Australian light inf
Ability 2 - Marmon herrington
Ability 3 - Matilda combat group
Ability 4 - Pillage territory
Ability 5 - Raid sabotage

British Air and Sea

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Fuel supply
Ability 1 chose 2 - Muni supply
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Centaur CS
Ability 3 chose 1 - Assault flares
Ability 3 chose 2 - Naval Bombardment

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Commandos
Ability 1 chose 2 - ---
Ability 2 chose 1 - Pack howitzer team
Ability 2 chose 2 - Commando LMG team
Ability 3 chose 1 - Incendiary Bombing
Ability 3 chose 2 - Rocket loiter

British Armored

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - regorous vehicle training\spot and smoke
Ability 1 chose 2 - preliminary bombardment\radio net
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - Churchill
Ability 3 chose 1 - Churchill 75mm\Command churchill
Ability 3 chose 2 - Churchill black prince

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - light vehicle withdraw\withdraw and refit
Ability 1 chose 2 - forward repair assembly
Ability 2 chose 1 - ---
Ability 2 chose 2 - crusider aa
Ability 3 chose 1 - Recon artillery
Ability 3 chose 2 - Designate targets

Canadian vanguard

left

Ability 1 chose 1 - Fast capture
Ability 1 chose 2 - Spot and smoke
Ability 2 chose 1 - Light inf
Ability 2 chose 2 - Assault enemy sector artillery
Ability 3 chose 1 - Into the breach
Ability 3 chose 2 - Prist

right

Ability 1 chose 1 - Piats
Ability 1 chose 2 - ---
Ability 2 chose 1 - CWT repair and ressuply
Ability 2 chose 2 - CWT and atg
Ability 3 chose 1 - ---
Ability 3 chose 2 - Churchill crock

Indian artillery - unfinished

Ability 1 - 25 pounder
Ability 2 - BL 5\5 heavy artillery
Ability 3 - Creeping smoke
Ability 4 - Forward observers
Ability 5 - Gurkhas
Ability 6 - Perimeter monitor
Ability 6 - Pillage
Ability 7 - Valour
Ability 8 - Victoria cross
Ability 9 - War cry

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18 Jul 2021, 17:05 PMGachiGasm

BATTLEGROUPS

So, lets look at battlegroups. While I was speculating that battlegroups have choses (or maybe you customize them a bit before the game), its not confirmed, to make it easier I'il mark abilities as choses and wings.

German

USF

UKF

Much better than CoH1 and CoH2.

Well done Relic.

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Wait a second, I don't get it, why does british Armored have Crusader AA, isn't it a stock unit?

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19 Jul 2021, 05:50 AMjagd wölfe

Wait a second, I don't get it, why does british Armored have Crusader AA, isn't it a stock unit?

I mean, its not the only one

The battlegroups gives out Chaffees and Churchills when both are stock in their respective factions. This is obviously pre-alpha

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Well its safe to assume that faction unit roster if unfinished, and battlegroups themself might be unfinished aswell.

Not to mention that even in skrimish we have to play with the factions copy\pasted from the campaing and not the MP version of them.

We dont even have a light version of the skrimish\MP battlegroups most likely.

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https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/1-general-discussion/threads/1350-company-of-heroes-3-gameplay-overview?page=1

So yeah, my speculations were correct

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Greetings file diggers, is there a way to increase Skirmish AI difficulty with file manipulation? Thanks much

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Doesn't seem like it at least for now.

Even the save files doesn't say anything about AI difficulty.

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understood, thanks

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24 Jul 2021, 20:07 PMWhiteFlash

understood, thanks

Im not at home but yes there is, if you look into the offical forums there sgould be a link that opens up several options, one of those being a difficultt slider

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26 Jul 2021, 09:42 AMOrangePest

Im not at home but yes there is, if you look into the offical forums there sgould be a link that opens up several options, one of those being a difficultt slider

You mean this? https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/1-general-discussion/threads/254-online-settings-unlocked?page=1

Because I read about it and several people claim to have tried it out but the difficulty still remains at easy regardless of what they do.

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23 Jul 2021, 21:15 PMGachiGasm

https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/1-general-discussion/threads/1350-company-of-heroes-3-gameplay-overview?page=1

So yeah, my speculations were correct

This looks very, very cool. Finally CPs are really "spent" and not just a passive meter that gets filled up. I hope there is some way to spend CPs other than that to create another trade off. Or don't make it necessarily exclusive but double/triple the costs of the not-picked option (I know that some abilities are worth 0, maybe add a flat amount to them).

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14 Jul 2021, 16:26 PMGachiGasm

Battlegroups (commanders)

UK:
dev_unlock_battlegroup_air_and_sea_uk
dev_unlock_battlegroup_british_armored_uk
dev_unlock_battlegroup_british_canadian_vanguard_uk
dev_unlock_battlegroup_indian_artillery_uk

Relic pls givme polish battlegroup with stolen kubelwagen

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Has anyone dug in for the mp alpha?

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Wow, looks like they're going to include a big variety of units into Coh3. Would work great for a community balance team so they can swap them out as needed to balance the game. Very cool.

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3 Dec 2021, 03:52 AMOrangePest

Has anyone dug in for the mp alpha?

Doesn't look like they added much besides a few new things like the Flak 88 for the Germans and their hull down, plus maybe a few units here and there.

Of course they also added the new portraits but from my quick glance that's pretty much it, at least on surface level.

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.647
+7
2.
TRI1091
465
191
.709
+5
3.
☞ ps3YES ☜
851
361
.702
+4
4.
Pioneer
184
93
.664
+1
5.
godjaemin
164
63
.722
+1
6.
IncaUna
221
112
.664
-1
7.
BatON
1161
776
.599
+5
8.
Zirty Zoggy
75
21
.781
+3
9.
William H. Harrison
485
205
.703
+1
10.
gardening lelic
873
465
.652
+4

                    

                        1.
SFC. LEE ッ
3117
1005
.756
+3
2.
Jerry
95
16
.856
+18
3.
Restzeit
643
336
.657
+9
4.
Mr.Brightside
702
366
.657
+4
5.
JOE
1201
731
.622
+5
6.
Nika
257
104
.712
+1
7.
Riiiiina
446
163
.732
-1
8.
Rusovsky
44
13
.772
+6
9.
CAuMOH
387
182
.680
-2
10.
Cid
89
25
.781
+1

                    

                        1.
ranger中文
1219
1049
.537
+3
2.
Bulbasaur
501
316
.613
+1
3.
傻卵死全家开图挂壁们拉闸了吧
424
287
.596
-1
4.
King of Lee
746
566
.569
+1
5.
Shi Ku Liao
873
621
.584
+1
6.
玛丽猫猫
875
739
.542
-1
7.
Jax
160
67
.705
-1
8.
黎霏洺
366
234
.610
+3
9.
godjaemin
343
255
.574
+4
10.
Cid
152
96
.613
-1

                    

                        1.
逼罗，逼罗 你妈很滑很润
655
231
.739
+15
2.
-虎贲-快樂的小蝸牛-HOI-
841
223
.790
+4
3.
MoronPark_Cat YE
351
57
.860
+16
4.
Krakenn
599
234
.719
+7
5.
Bober
934
410
.695
-1
6.
ker_141
278
108
.720
+29
7.
vonLewinski
307
114
.729
+3
8.
I'm YE and I Don't eat beef
64
5
.928
+5
9.
红色卫兵
106
29
.785
+7
10.
TRI1091
52
7
.881
+18

                    

                        1.
☞ ps3YES ☜
2016
1084
.650
-1
2.
Flap
474
214
.689
+1
3.
IncaUna
583
358
.620
-1
4.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1681
923
.646
+4
5.
[虎贲] Leng Mo
119
50
.704
-1
6.
HazardousMoose
429
272
.612
+1
7.
【Clannad】
214
68
.759
+12
8.
André
328
140
.701
+5
9.
TheMeowGamer
102
37
.734
-1
10.
✠Kaiser✠ PERVITIN
191
103
.650
+2

                    

                        1.
Thales
771
291
.726
+4
2.
Remder
612
179
.774
-1
3.
Jerry
170
49
.776
-1
4.
Nika
216
90
.706
+19
5.
Restzeit
1015
554
.647
+6
6.
André
1003
437
.697
-1
7.
★Osas
361
155
.700
+2
8.
NoPlayWithAsiaSync/Maphack
606
410
.596
+8
9.
Ovidiu
1499
749
.667
-2
10.
BATTLEDANNY1
83
22
.790
-1

                    

                        1.
玛丽猫猫
575
416
.580
+5
2.
Shrimp
246
127
.660
-1
3.
Tharrats
779
624
.555
-1
4.
BATTLEDANNY1
398
286
.582
-1
5.
ukill
195
157
.554
+11
6.
Rodinho
510
384
.570
+1
7.
Wagggggggh!哈哈
227
164
.581
-1
8.
King of Lee
280
203
.580
-2
9.
フンッ！逃げるつもりかい！！
477
378
.558
+1
10.
WTFD=
53
10
.841
+11

                    

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