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Volks are already super cheap. And the test clearly shows Volks beat Cons at close or mid range.
I'm surprised to see Cons beat Volks at long range. Very skeptical about that. Perhaps because of the buff behind green cover. But out of cover Volks definitely win
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Nades also only affect Rifles or Section so that is moot point.
usf nades also give smoke nades to rear echelons on the brits you do have a point with mills bombs
Your Joking right. AEC and Stuart arrives at the same time as ost LV and are significantly stronger.
Yeah and you get the MG because of the god awefull shit tier infantry you get. You know despite having an MG do you know why Brits don't function like OST because that is a shit design but allies cant have shit design.
ost lv are earlier still and the flametrack wreck infantry harder tgen either of those
Are you high???? If you think that you are much worse then your opponents. F t34's you can get t34-85's/KV-1's by the time OST can hit P4's.
you seem to be the high one, getting t34 85 or kv1 before an ost p4? The ost player must be loosing badly already if that happens, or sov skipped t70
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Volks are already super cheap.
I'm surprised to see Cons beat Volks at long range. Very skeptical about that. Perhaps because of the buff behind green cover. But out of cover Volks definitely win
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They don't, they have far better RA than Volks
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Only at vet 3. But have a far worse flame nade less healing options and no ai upgrade.
Imo volks are not meant to be the same main line as what other factions get. They have much stronger elite obers stock after them. There is where okw should be buffed. Imo @pip made some good or even excelent point on how to this.
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But Cons have 6 men.
Only at vet 3
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Kinda love it that tunnel vision fanboys tries to make a plus into a minus. Do you actually want shock nade+smoke and guard nade to be locked behind this upgrade too maybe even penal satchels as well to make this more in line with all other factions???
Sure you can build a flame HT knowing just 10 sec later an AEC/Sturt is gonna kill your ass.
How are failing to get mediums later than the ost player. Tech is cheaper, you have stronger overall infantry(for the sovs you have more overall infantry) so that mean map control should also be slightly better and mediums them selves are also cheaper. Like how can you say allies get medium later than OST. caus they don't. Unless you had a shit early game-mid your medium time is gonna be in line with OST.
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But they have 6 men. And they have 0.99 ra at vet1.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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imo instead of buffing volks, we should nerf 7 men cons vet bonus.
even as ost, fighting late games 2v2 sov is tough. sov are super capable to dig in and hold out the VP.
the new commander patch is going to give cons 4 ppsh!
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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So do osttruppen and they still lose to most units.
You do realize that units are balanced as a whole unit and not individual model vs individual model?
And that 6 men is the reason WHY they have high RA and low DPS?
Volks also used to have that design in comparison to grens, but then they were made into better grens.
id be very wary of buffing volks combat performance, i think it would just be easier to decrease their cost and make them more cost efficient, im sure by design they are supposed to be like that anyway.
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So do osttruppen and they still lose to most units.
You do realize that units are balanced as a whole unit and not individual model vs individual model?
And that 6 men is the reason WHY they have high RA and low DPS?
Volks also used to have that design in comparison to grens, but then they were made into better grens.
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imo instead of buffing volks, we should nerf 7 men cons vet bonus.
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7 man cons (no upgrades) will win
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Only at vet 3. But have a far worse flame nade less healing options and no ai upgrade.
Imo volks are not meant to be the same main line as what other factions get. They have much stronger elite obers stock after them. There is where okw should be buffed. Imo @pip made some good or even excelent point on how to this.
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