German Infantry Commander adjustments

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2021, 09:39 AMZeroZeroNi

Projecting much?
It's a shitty argument. i guess now you wouldn't mind if the mg was 220 mp right. Because it supports your argument.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2021, 10:37 AMLMAO

I'm just listing some conscript strengths as it seems to be a topic.
Well conscripts had a ton of utility, like merge, build sandbags, trip wire flares which grenadiers don't have with and in built sprint. Unupgraded cons beat unupgraded grenadier in any range except for long range. Ppsh conscript is also like the current grenadier vsl wet dream .

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 13:26 PMKatitof

Pios cap just as well as grens in late game and its ostwind/brummbar/pwerfer who do the infantry killing heavy lifting, not grens, unless you actually believe grens should stand up to fully upgraded tommies or rifles too, in which case, you're delusional. Ost late game was ALWAYS about vehicles, never about infantry.

There is a reason why in place of grens, pios are being rebuilt.

I honestly didn't expected I would need to teach a wehraboo the very basics of playing the ost faction, but here we are.


You clearly did not understood what I said, so I'll leave you here with opportunity to re-read it as many times as you need for it to sink in.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2021, 01:01 AMLewka

I like the change of weaponry for the veteran squad leader grens and that they still retain improved rate of fire. However I feel like with the survivability nerf to vsl everyone is going to use G43 grens in the coming patch instead. I have thousands of hours played but am of low ranking so my opinions on balance matter very little. However, in my opinion (take it for what it's worth) VSL grens could use a slight buff or change. Like decreasing their RA again, and maybe taking away their ability to heal for free.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2021, 13:18 PMLewka

Really? I thought the buff looked so strong in the patch notes

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2021, 06:43 AMKiwiBirb

I would maybe like to see VSL reduce the reinforce cost from 30 to 28. beecuase you are dropping an extra model in most engagements as compared to mg42 grens. which hurts your mp economy.

also, I feel like lefh would fit the infantry theme well. Idk which ability it would replace, or even if its necessary. just wanted to point it out

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2021, 16:19 PMmrgame2

no place for stormtroopers, replace with lefh....hmm i rather replace with command tank though

also for grens with lmg, sure they are better long range, but most allies will just rush in on them. so range is not like a sure win

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2021, 13:18 PMLewka

Really? I thought the buff looked so strong in the patch notes

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2021, 09:48 AMZyllen

The problem why the g43 upgrade is rarely seen is because the soviets and the Americans excel at short range fighting. Even with g43´s you are going to lose against these factions in a pitched battle. Now there are maps that that favor close range combat instead of long range combat and at this point you should be using the g43´s over the LMG. But the traditional advantage of the ostheer has always been long range.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 18:47 PMSp33dSnake

A total rework of the commander might be in order. Okay I get it; adding a Sniper G43 was too much.

It was happily one of my core commanders I used, and for good reason.

How about this?

2 - CP
Breakthrough Equipment

2 - CP
Stormtroopers

2 - CP
Veteran Squad Leaders (45 munitions)

4 man grens are now upgraded to a 5th man with a standard Kar 98. Veteran Squad Leaders inspire their man to move faster as well as be able to concentrate their fire more accurately.

-VSL Grens now get Sprint

-VSL Grens now get 'Target Them!'

-VSL Grens now get Smoke Grenade

Panzergrens no longer are affected due to already getting smoke grenades from Breakthrough Equipment.

6 CP - Assault And Hold

10 CP - Frag Bomb