UKF command vehicle and Infiltration Commandoes

Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2021, 17:39 PMGrumpy

I started playing a lot more UKF and find a couple things really odd, and maybe unbalanced. The first is the UKF designate command vehicle. While command vehicles from every other faction improve the vehicle itself, and units around it, the UKF one badly nerfs whatever vehicle becomes the command vehicle so that it seems to never be worth it. If the aura is too strong, maybe give it a slight nerf so that the ability isn't wasted

Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2021, 22:07 PMSander93

Just put it on an AEC and have it follow your tanks. Designate Command Vehicle is one of the most powerful abilities in the game. An AEC with tread shot and two vetted Fireflies is easily the deadliest AT force in the game with incredible DPM.

Just an example (and this wasn't even a very long game):


The only thing that makes this ability balanced is that you have to sacrifice a unit for it (though the debuffs don't seem to apply to tread shot so that still works nicely) and that it costs a ton of resources to accumulate. But once you get things rolling...

Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2021, 18:12 PMKatitof

Infiltration commandos spawn like that, because contrary to other infiltration units(barring memetisans), they start with their cqc weapon and not rifles.

Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2021, 22:07 PMSander93

Just put it on an AEC and have it follow your tanks.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2021, 12:03 PMHannibal

To be honest that is also the issue I have with that ability. It is a good ability by itself, but you absolutely MUST have an AEC for that. Even on a Cromwell it's hardly worth it.
At this point it could also just become a unit upgrade for the AEC. The faction just lacks some proper light vehicles for an ability in this specific design.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2021, 12:27 PMMMX

i remember a couple of years ago it was still possible to convert the uc into a command vehicle... fun times! and there was hardly a reason ever to use it on any other vehicle, apart maybe from the poor lategame survivability of the uc. i remember this combo was deemed too cheap and with too little drawbacks at the time, but then again the whole brit faction changed quite a lot since.
so maybe the whole uc-into-command-vehicle thing could be revisited again. would also help to give it some sort of utility past the lv phase.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2021, 13:41 PMVipper

Command vehicle upgrade is no longer possible in UC.

I guess one could replace the upgrade with a command vehicle and balance it accordingly, but the upgrade is far from bad.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2021, 21:42 PMGrumpy

You're correct in that it can't be put on a UC. I wouldn't mind the ability if that was still possible, but don't like having to build a AEC in a 4v4 just to use the ability.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2021, 21:42 PMGrumpy

I understand why they limited the number of models on Infiltration commandoes when used as an infiltration units, but think they should get all of their models when not used as infiltration units.

Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2021, 22:07 PMSander93

Just put it on an AEC and have it follow your tanks. Designate Command Vehicle is one of the most powerful abilities in the game. An AEC with tread shot and two vetted Fireflies is easily the deadliest AT force in the game with incredible DPM.

Just an example (and this wasn't even a very long game):


The only thing that makes this ability balanced is that you have to sacrifice a unit for it (though the debuffs don't seem to apply to tread shot so that still works nicely) and that it costs a ton of resources to accumulate. But once you get things rolling...