It's time for Main Gun Crits to go

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 18:52 PMMr Carmine

You dont get my point concerning the cover system i made. The point is where will it end? It will end at a stale streamlined aka boring rts where everything is a certanty.

You think people will stop after removing main gun crits? Did they stop after cold weather removal or heavy engine critical or track destroyed? No they didnt, this very thread proves it.

And a good direction for the game is very subjective. I do agree it far better then years back. But the critical like main gun imo need to stay.

And still if a exeedingly rare crit causes so much frustration esp when it can also happen to your opponent why play this game? If you dont want those crits play dow 2 or 3, or c&c or star craft. They don have those feutures. It would save precious man hours not changing a great game into something its not designed or meant to be.

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 16:24 PMPip

If you're adamant on these RNG crits still being in the game, why do they need to be as impactful as Main Gun Crits? Crew Shocked and similar, temporary, or otherwise less impactful crits would be preferable to your main cannon being unusable.

Though i'd still prefer they be gone entirely.

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 19:02 PMthedarkarmadillo

lots of people, myself included are already annoyed with the watering down of game features. cold tech needed a rework, not a removal and weapon crits are the same.

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 19:09 PMstrafniki

I will add a few cents: of course it is annoying if a main gun crit is happening against your favor, but this keeps COH interesting and kinda unpredictible.. as someone mentioned before: without all the mechanics it would be just a raw starcraft. not that enjoyable if you are playing the games for fun.. because if every engagement would become predictible.. would it be still fun? i highly doubt it
maybe a solid rework could fix very annoying issues tho

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 19:09 PMstrafniki

I will add a few cents: of course it is annoying if a main gun crit is happening against your favor, but this keeps COH interesting and kinda unpredictible.. as someone mentioned before: without all the mechanics it would be just a raw starcraft. not that enjoyable if you are playing the games for fun.. because if every engagement would become predictible.. would it be still fun? i highly doubt it
maybe a solid rework could fix very annoying issues tho

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 19:12 PMelchino7

Cold tech was a performance, design and balance problem. Many things which couldn't be touched due to limited power of mod tools.

Crits is mainly a balance problem with a slight touch of design issues. And it's not something hard to improve cause everything is already there.

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 19:19 PMPip

There's literally nothing wrong with engagements becoming predictable. Being able to predict the outcome of an action allows you to rely more on your own skill, rather than hoping a dice roll is in your favour.

There is no reason that a game with less RNG would be less fun than one with absurd levels of RNG.

I really don't see the removal of these things as "Watering down game features". They are not good features to begin with.

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 11:25 AMVipper

One can avoided the chance of critical be retreating his vehicle before it is below the threshold

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 23:45 PMKieselberg

You are simply wrong.

This kind of RNG is exactly what makes the coh series unique. Take stuff like this away and it will become a streamline clone of whatever rts you like.

So boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnngggg!

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 23:45 PMKieselberg

You are simply wrong.

This kind of RNG is exactly what makes the coh series unique. Take stuff like this away and it will become a streamline clone of whatever rts you like.

So boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnngggg!

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 00:32 AMSerrith

If you think taking away main gun crits and similar mechanics would make coh too similar to other rts, I have to question if you've played other rts at all.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 00:31 AMSerrith

I was referring to your ability to reliably inflict crits, not avoid them. If you give a reliable or semi reliable way for a player to influence the rate main gun crits occur similarly to how a player can influence accuracy, I suppose I could be ok with main gun crits remaining-assuming there are counterplay options.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 00:58 AMthedarkarmadillo

what about snares on infantry? tied to a certain health threshold like engine damage now now. makes infantry support even more valuable. say 25% and a snare can mean a busted gun

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 00:58 AMthedarkarmadillo

what about snares on infantry? tied to a certain health threshold like engine damage now now. makes infantry support even more valuable. say 25% and a snare can mean a busted gun

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 01:51 AMPip

Honestly if that were the compromise, I'd take that over the current system.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 08:54 AMMMX

i don't know. i could also be a specific trait of said rifles to compensate for their mediocre performance against late-game armour. but i'd also rather see other currently unused crits as you mentioned than main gun destroyed popping up so frequently.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 07:48 AMMr Carmine

Nice to see we are no longer at remove it period.

The main gun crit below 25% hp thresh hold next to already being snared. This should only be able to with snares is a good approach, i would like to see tanks or at guns still able to do this below 25% hp, only at 5% chance or even lower that gun gets destroyed but no hp damage (no egine damage). It can save the tank wich would otherwise have been destroyed.