Its' relevant exactly because some seem to forget why MR was introduced in the first place.
And now that it has been introduced, and after several other buff conscripts have received over the years their superior vet bonuses where toned down.
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Its' relevant exactly because some seem to forget why MR was introduced in the first place.
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And now that it has been introduced, and after several other buff conscripts have received over the years their superior vet bonuses where toned down.
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And now that it has been introduced, and after several other buff conscripts have received over the years their superior vet bonuses where toned down.
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MR was introduced with those vet bonuses in mind and was since nerfed. ...
the issue lis with the SVT upgrade...
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Not really MR was completely broken when introduced even before conscripts reached vet 3.
Patch notes are clear this has not only do to with SVT conscripts but with MR conscripts as well.
I would suspect but I might be wrong that the MOD team was concern about performance of vet 3 MR conscripts vs vet 5 ST44 VG (and VSL Vet 3 grenadiers) in cover to cover fights.
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Perhaps partially. It's no secret that Volks and Grens are currently considered udnerwhelming in the late game. But 5m grens and STG volks are not very good units to "benchmark" in cover to cover scenarios, I'd use LMG grens if anything. 5m grens bully conscripts out of the game in mid game and shred them extremely fast when cought in the open. STG makes volks immune to close range pushes from cons very soon into the game, so again, the unit kinda nullifies cons combat performance at certain stages of the game. 7m cons don't do any of that, they just trade well in cover to cover firefight, but they don't roll over Axis infantry at any stage of the game.
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LMG grenadier are not a good benchmark either since the are meant to excel at long cover to cover fights and the punch above their cost in that particular scenario. MR conscripts can simply ourah to them and beat them.
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LMG grenadier are not a good benchmark either since the are meant to excel at long cover to cover fights and the punch above their cost in that particular scenario.
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Again, I personally consider LMG grens underwhelming, but in half of realistic scenarios neither side can leave cover due to taking damage from other squads or MGs, so in those static cases LMG grens are a good type of unit to compare. STG volks and 5m Grens prefer encounters at closer ranges or while mobile.
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So let me get this straight:
LMG grenadiers are UP, VG are UP and Conscripts are up.
Since these units are fighting each other where does the problem lies? In riflemen and Tommies being OP?
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What? Who said Cons are UP? They are simply fine. There is just no need to nerf them.
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So what it problem? Would rather have grenadier and VG buffed?
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I have no problem. LMG gren could use a buff, vet5 Volks maybe as well, but what have cons too do with that? They are not fighting just those two units.
What kind of question even is this? Would you buff Stug-E by nerfing every other AI vehicle and medium in the game?
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The analogy is completely of mark.
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It's not. The idea of nerfing all other units because another one is outperformed is simply silly.
And why wouldn't conscript general performance be important? Last time I've checked the notes, they didn't state "Conscripts veterancy 3 bonus 10 % accuracy removed agaisnt grenadiers and volksgrenadeiers specifically". This is not Footmen Frenzy.
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Its' relevant exactly because some seem to forget why MR was introduced in the first place.
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confirmed... vet 5 VGs do self heal and heal pretty quickly and have massive sight radius in cover... id say vet 5 VGs are most definitely not as bad as you think...
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