[Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback

Jump back to quoted post12 Dec 2020, 21:44 PMlovendead

Why PM-41 skill flare not moved to vet 1? this skill is too good on team match

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 04:40 AMgbem

because it sucks without it... if u want to move it to vet 1 it better get its ROF buffed to match other mortars...


besides OKW flares are far more broken for teamgames than the PM-41 flare...

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 10:20 AMMr Carmine

The barrages should be buffed if flare goes to vet 1. The ost and soviet mortar auto rof is closest its ever been been but both ost barrages are stil a lot better.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 10:52 AMVipper

Actually that is incorrect MP-41 already has superior barrage than both GRW-34 and M1-81.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 10:57 AMKatitof

Only if you completely ignore reload, which makes it inferior.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 10:57 AMVipper

Nope that is incorrect, MP-41 barrage is superior.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 11:00 AMKatitof

Scatter, yes.
Reload, no.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 11:03 AMVipper

And if you take both of them in consideration the MP-41 barrage is superior.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 11:06 AMKatitof

No.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 11:09 AMVipper

Yes.

There has is whole thread about it than compares the mortars check it out before continuing posting pls.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 13:02 PMMr Carmine

I find the barrages of soviet mortar take to long. Ive had mg42's just wait it out with little to no damage taken. And units such as grens or pgrens just walk out with less chance to take damage.

Now that i think about it the mortars are more responsive now. Esp with seperate cookdowns. I defenitly love that change
I will test the mortars some more. I will walk back on my comment bout the barrages.

I do not think the flares need any changing atm.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 13:13 PMVipper

Testing help get a better perspective on thing.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 15:03 PMlovendead

I thought mortar has been standardized, and all units with flare get that skill on vet 1. But why this mortar is not?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 14:48 PMRutra5214

Can we take a look at su85's focused sight range + it's vet 1 ability? First of all I think that focused sight should give it "only" 60 range (not 70), moreover it shouldn't stack with vet1 ability. Tracking should work as 222's ability and display things on mini/tacmap, not affecting directly line of sight at all. Currently if you use focused sight and tracking ability you can see further than 100 range, and I don't think soviets need so good sight provided by this unit as they should rely on vetted t70 and/or flare abilities from t1 and t2.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 05:16 AMSwitzerland

I would point out that arguing that the Sov mortars barrage is "better" despite being able to re-locate due to the gaps between barrage shot is kind of odd.

That and when you factor that the Wher mortar fires faster in auto and barrage mode and is more accurate in auto fire makes having a flare about all the Sov mortar has going for it (this being preferable to the precision shot of old).

Been a solid wher strat since game launch to build a couple mortars and simply be in range of the opponent, no micro they just auto fire accurately. Least the barrage (as the flare) has to be requested by sov player to get results on any kind of "par".