m8 what I said was a fact nothing more or nothing less. It's his fault for being wrong/oblivious and being stubborn to boot.
As for why.. There could be situation you might have to the margin at witch Rifle/Penals win vs Grens at long range justifies the mp cost(it's not 1 model remaining).
I never said that grens will win or anything, you quoted me saying that penals\rifles will win. Alright, whats next?
Long range firefights vs grens are not optimal, you still bleed and take damage from less expensive squad, allowing ost to bring another one and even relocate HMG.
This was the point, that you shouldnt fight grens at long range. Because you will lose in a long run doing so, especially when both rifles\penals destoy grens at mid to close range.
Its like saying "Well Sturmpios will win vs combat engis and rears at long range", but only utter retard will use them in this manner if there is no nessesity to do so.