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Why would I waste my time arguing with a person on a random pointless thread? If you don't believe me, fine. Test it yourself, I don't care enough to test such random obvious things.
And get back to your? You overestimate your importance.
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Why would I waste my time arguing with a person on a random pointless thread? If you don't believe me, fine. Test it yourself, I don't care enough to test such random obvious things.
And get back to your? You overestimate your importance.
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Just a friendly reminder. Winning an engament doesnt mean you have won strategically.
It doesnt matter if you win this long range stalemate cover to cover, because you will lose hell of a lot time and possibly take unnessery loses in models\HP.
Thats why you don't want to fight grens at long range with penals and rifles.
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m8 what I said was a fact nothing more or nothing less. It's his fault for being wrong/oblivious and being stubborn to boot.
As for why.. There could be situation you might have to the margin at witch Rifle/Penals win vs Grens at long range justifies the mp cost(it's not 1 model remaining).
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I never said that grens will win or anything, you quoted me saying that penals\rifles will win. Alright, whats next?
Long range firefights vs grens are not optimal, you still bleed and take damage from less expensive squad, allowing ost to bring another one and even relocate HMG.
This was the point, that you shouldnt fight grens at long range. Because you will lose in a long run doing so, especially when both rifles\penals destoy grens at mid to close range.
Its like saying "Well Sturmpios will win vs combat engis and rears at long range", but only utter retard will use them in this manner if there is no nessesity to do so.
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But you said they don't win. I wasn't arguing over weather you should or should not fight Grens at long. Just pointing out the fact that Rifles and Penal do win at long/max range vs grens.
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No feedback, but maybe another idea for the patch: How about a dmg increase on the 251s MG42 if you have a Unit in it?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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All Ost Snares are still at 15 seconds cooldown while all all other factions have 30 second, this is inconsistency at its finest
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All Ost Snares are still at 15 seconds cooldown while all all other factions have 30 second, this is inconsistency at its finest
And they are having more range than hand thrown at nade (18 vs 16) on top of having a bulletin for further range increase, but sure.
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Is there any news on when the patch is planned to be out?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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It's 18 versus 15. Grens get higher range on purpose because they are more vulnerable when snaring than other squads because of their low squad size. Osttruppen are losing the premium range in the patch.
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Grens have 20s. Volks have 20s on their Panzerfaust too and all other units with 30s except Royal Engineers get cooldown reductions with veterancy (Grens and Volks don't). REs are the only inconsistency, and it's on the list to get addressed.
It's 18 versus 15. Grens get higher range on purpose because they are more vulnerable when snaring than other squads because of their low squad size. Osttruppen are losing the premium range in the patch.
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Rifle probably can just get a hand thrown sticky bomb like coh1 for a animation improvement.
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Grens have 20s. Volks have 20s on their Panzerfaust too and all other units with 30s except Royal Engineers get cooldown reductions with veterancy (Grens and Volks don't). REs are the only inconsistency, and it's on the list to get addressed.
It's 18 versus 15. Grens get higher range on purpose because they are more vulnerable when snaring than other squads because of their low squad size. Osttruppen are losing the premium range in the patch.
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