[Winter Balance Update] General Discussion

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 15:13 PMVipper

After the debate about heal I made some additional test:
I tested Soviet base heal Live, Soviet base heal, UKF medics, USF ambulance and the time to heal 24 entities with 0 HP.

Best healing is Ambulance/UKF medic around 70% better than Soviet base healing live.

Soviet base healing in the patch is around 25% live.

These are big change which will upset the current healing ratio speed of faction and I see little reason for one to proceeded with them unless on does extensive testing.

There are certainly not "quality of life changes".

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 15:20 PMthedarkarmadillo

I'd see the AOE of the soviet healing kept but the standard rate lowered so it's a neutral change. The AOE imo is necessary because of the issue where one of the nurses starts shagging Yuri and ignores the other lads.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 15:20 PMthedarkarmadillo

Bring back the 25% extra rate at t4 as by that stage of the game the increased heals would be more than welcome to offset the dramatically increased damage output of everything and the soviet are unable to otherwise offset this. Having to retreat to heal is still enough of a drawback

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 17:46 PMzerocoh

Don't know if this is the place for requests but I wanted to ask for beacons to also be put on other unit that isn't the pathfinder, since if you don't call it or it gets wiped mid game you have no way to make beacons and since only paratroopers can benefit from it, I think it's kinda dumb you needing to call another squad just for it.

maybe give it to RETs or officers?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 15:20 PMthedarkarmadillo

I'd see the AOE of the soviet healing kept but the standard rate lowered so it's a neutral change. The AOE imo is necessary because of the issue where one of the nurses starts shagging Yuri and ignores the other lads.
Bring back the 25% extra rate at t4 as by that stage of the game the increased heals would be more than welcome to offset the dramatically increased damage output of everything and the soviet are unable to otherwise offset this. Having to retreat to heal is still enough of a drawback

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 20:21 PMShadowLinkX37

Since we're on the topic of pathfinders, is it possible to fix BARfinders juggling a lot? I know they're actually really strong, but maybe we could tone that down a tad as well as fix their juggle? The fact that on the airborne paths if you equip 2x BARs every model you drop could potentially be a BAR is really nerve racking.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 20:37 PMVipper

Pathfinder have a number of issues (weapons with contradicting DPS curves, Low XP value) and should be looked at some point.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 13:40 PMJulianSnow

Giving the pathfinders a weapon upgrade for their own Carbine Rifles (+1 scope or just better stats) which requires no weapon slot and in turn remove all their weapon slots. To keep them as a long range unit.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 13:54 PMVipper

They simply should not start with Paras Carbines...

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:05 PMKatitof

Why?
Its 2 rifles on expensive squad that isn't known for durability.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:22 PMVipper

Because the the Carbine is designed for mid to close and they should have a weapon designed for mid to far.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:28 PMKatitof

Alright.
Give them M1919 then as that's the only non sniper crit long range weapon USF has.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:34 PMKatitof

Probably, but "vipper doesn't like how it is now" isn't exactly a valid reason to even start considering the option

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:34 PMKatitof

and literally no one ever complained about their default weapons being too strong or weak.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 20:21 PMShadowLinkX37

Since we're on the topic of pathfinders, is it possible to fix BARfinders juggling a lot? I know they're actually really strong, but maybe we could tone that down a tad as well as fix their juggle? The fact that on the airborne paths if you equip 2x BARs every model you drop could potentially be a BAR is really nerve racking.

Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 20:39 PMGrim

Could pathfinders get squad increase of +1 upgrade for durability in the late game? At the expense of a weapons slot ofc.

Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2020, 11:07 AMSupport Sapper

pathfinder can be change to that they come only with para carbine and cheaper