Zis Barrage need longer cooldown

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 20:50 PMgbem

not really according to the cruzz chart...
Zis3
Range near
15
Range mid
47.5
Range far
80

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 20:54 PMKatitof

Then perhaps you should read couple of posts back, where this also is explained.
Weapon range is 80.
Ability range is 60.
Barrage is not auto-attack, therefore ability range applies.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 20:33 PMKatitof

That's... not my theory you unpeeled orange.
That's what is being considered for it and the reasoning.
And guess what princess?
It doesn't come from me.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 20:33 PMKatitof

Here, have a go and see what Miragefla considers doing with it:
SU-76
-Rotation rate from 32 to 36
-Barrage recharge from 80 to 40
-Firing cone from 2 to 5
-Veterancy 1 Tracking replaced by Tank Hunter Tactics Ambush ability; rotation penalty to 50% when in this mode.
-Veterancy 2 Barrage recharge removed
-Veterancy 3 rotation bonus from 25% to 15%
-Can no longer run over infantry

And lets be honest, as full of yourself you are, its still more likely Miras suggestion will get in then yours silly one based on nothing else but another "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE sov unit OP" thread.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 21:07 PMVipper

Miragelfa has not said that " it now has muni cost and long CD is no longer needed as a balancing factor." This is your theory and your alone.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 23:52 PMKatitof

It might blow your mind, but there is more to coh community then this forum.
Just because you haven't read it on forum doesn't mean its not true.

Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2020, 23:02 PMGachiGasm

If anyone would want to change barrage without removing it or making more expensive, I would have rather see it shooing like a JT. So at least cover and other blocks, would requre you to possition your zis.

In any case, aurgument that soviets dont have easy access to nades, thefor they need Barrage is somewhat true, honestly soviets having grenades would have been much better.

Unlike nades zis pretty much forces any support weapon to relocate like instanly, paired with your attack, you are able to breach enemy defences with much less efford then a player who has to flank with multiple squads and throw nades.

Not to mention, that stock soviet mortar is still shit, which is tecnically supposed to be way to counter support weapons and deffences.