Conscript 7th men too much?

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 00:01 AMthedarkarmadillo

Yea! That's WAAAY more exciting and equally thematic! A single of the worst mg in the game, that Literally only comes in pachages of 2 and 3 because individually it a joke would make a great use of cons only weapon slot....

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 15:32 PMSerrith

Maybe 1 DP but allow it to fire on the move?

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 15:32 PMSerrith

Maybe 1 DP but allow it to fire on the move?

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 00:01 AMthedarkarmadillo

Yea! That's WAAAY more exciting and equally thematic! A single of the worst mg in the game, that Literally only comes in pachages of 2 and 3 because individually it a joke would make a great use of cons only weapon slot....

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 23:31 PMWAAAGH2000

Other idea，but not only about cons，remove 7men upgrade，after build light armor HQ allow Cons upgrade single DP，T4 have passive reducereinforcement cost same as Ost，Cons and Penal and weapon squad reinforcement cost -2，so maybe could make Penal more useful in later game，also Penal and Cons could support each other like Ost Grenadines with Schreck PG

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 15:38 PMSpoof

No, that's just silly and it doesn't buff DPS enough. At least 7-man increases durability. It meshes well with having the best sandbags in the game.

Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2020, 16:30 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Probably half a DP. Would be very fair against 4 FG42 Falls squad with Valiant Assault.

Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2020, 06:08 AMCrecer13

I do not see the point in the 7th person. This upgrade comes so late so the Guard or Shock Troops will be your main infantry anyway so as not to lose. As a combat effectiveness, upgrade weapons such as PPSh or SVT are much more effective and finally starting to be a real combat unit (moreover, upgrade weapons come to 1-2 CP). So to throw an AT grenade, what their main role still remains, they can perfectly well without the 7th person.

Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2020, 13:35 PMthedarkarmadillo

. 7 man increases durability, decreases reinforcement and slightly increases firepower in cover. A very big draw imo is 7 men can fully recrew a team weapon without losing the squad, somehting that could be game changing late game. What's more, RNG is RNG and 7 men trying to throw a snare are better off than 6 when things like KTs and Brummbärs prowl.

It comes late that is true but the dev team were worried about increasing the existing t3 powerspike. To come sooner the T70 would need toned down, which I'm fine with but many people here are unable to fathom multiple changes at a time

Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2020, 22:51 PMT.R. Stormjäger

7man cons nowhere near OP. Imagine saying Cons OP in a meta of Ost 90% win rate with terminator 5man Grens and broken Osttruppen.

Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2020, 06:57 AMSerrith

I was only half serious about the dp upgrade but it is definitely an upgrade at all ranges past 1m over a conscript Mosin, and firing on the move its still better then the conscript Mosin at ranges past 10m. If it were a cheap 30 munition upgrade with fire on the move I could see it being cost effective, but I do think it would be a boring upgrade and we'd just have another LMG mainline infantry.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2020, 02:30 AMC3 TOOTH

I main Soviet since 2013, started to play USF since 2017. And in early 2020, I changed to Axis, shift between Ost & Okw.

Recently I have a huge problems vs Allies infantry as Axis, especially Ost vs USF or UK.
- I feel like 4men Gren is completly dominated since early game vs 4men Tommy. To late game 4men 1LMG vs 5men 2Bren.
- Or 3 Ranger with 9 Zook and double Calliop behind (Last night had a match that 2 USF use 6 Ranger 18 Zook with 4 Calliop) I just feel hopeless.

Any tips? (Consider I play 4v4)