Why is the Jagdtiger so pointless
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So what is the point of this ... thing ? Why not just get 2 JP 4 instead ? They seem to be better than the Jagdtiger in almost every way while being of far lower risk. Even when the enemy has a ISU 152 it is better to just get 2 JP4s to counter the ISU , as ISU doctrines come with Il2 bombing runs ...
If it could be called in even when the schwere HQ is destroyed then I would at least see a point in it, but at the moment it is just one big heavy lie. People tell you it is good to counter allied Tanks / TDs , but once you get it it is just a big waste of fuel.
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You get the JT to say fuck you to enemy armour.
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super potent in team games on quite a few maps.
I see it often enough to belive quite a few people see use in it
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Honest answer, because Relic was so enamored adding super-heavy tanks like the behemoth Jagdtiger and Sturmtiger that they hadn't actually thought about whether or not adding these would be a good idea. It turns out they're not particularly fun to use or play against, and both have been nerfed heavily to stop them from being unstoppable win cannons.
but sadly they forgget the ISU for years to touch. This thing is OP as hell. Its like a elefant and Brumbar had a baby. its great vs all targets. its faster than german ele and jgtiger ...has more rear armor, has great AI ...and even AA
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So yeah...better get something else.
I don't know how it is in 3v3 and 4v4 so what I said applies to 2v2 only.
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Also its HE barrage literally has like 100 range. Great against team weapons.
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Oh no only completely denying all Allied armor from functioning at all. So completely useless, why would anyone want to use that?
Also its HE barrage literally has like 100 range. Great against team weapons.
i look everyday 1-3 stream from hiogh ranks ...mostly 2v2 or higher. u see jgtiger rarly...only one in 30 games or so. ...its because its shit and easy too lose. ´but an ISU u see it mostly every 3-4 game
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i look everyday 1-3 stream from hiogh ranks ...mostly 2v2 or higher. u see jgtiger rarly...only one in 30 games or so. ...its because its shit and easy too lose. ´but an ISU u see it mostly every 3-4 game
-OR- because the people you watch, assuming what you say is true, have a clue on how to play the game and don't need to crutch on it? It still excels at trash tier ranks, so I have no idea how you see it as useless.
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i look everyday 1-3 stream from hiogh ranks ...mostly 2v2 or higher. u see jgtiger rarly...only one in 30 games or so. ...its because its shit and easy too lose. ´but an ISU u see it mostly every 3-4 game
Jagd is seldom seen in such modes since you don't need it in such modes. Getting it in 3v3 and 4v4 is great. Don't think there is a teamgame where elefant of jagd are not present at some point in time. It's a unit you get to deny every ally armour, including ISU (500-550 penetration vs 340 armour, 100% penetration at all ranges on all units). ISU also can't touch it due to high armour and higher HP. Same as how ISU is often taken in teamgames and less so in 2v2 and never on 1v1, so are elefant and jagd. Great team game tanks.
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Honest answer, because Relic was so enamored adding super-heavy tanks like the behemoth Jagdtiger and Sturmtiger that they hadn't actually thought about whether or not adding these would be a good idea. It turns out they're not particularly fun to use or play against, and both have been nerfed heavily to stop them from being unstoppable win cannons.
Basically what the issues were with these in RL
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Jagd is seldom seen in such modes since you don't need it in such modes. Getting it in 3v3 and 4v4 is great. Don't think there is a teamgame where elefant of jagd are not present at some point in time. It's a unit you get to deny every ally armour, including ISU (500-550 penetration vs 340 armour, 100% penetration at all ranges on all units). ISU also can't touch it due to high armour and higher HP. Same as how ISU is often taken in teamgames and less so in 2v2 and never on 1v1, so are elefant and jagd. Great team game tanks.
elefant is seen much, yes. but jgtiger? never seen it in weeks
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elefant is seen much, yes. but jgtiger? never seen it in weeks
I on other hand seen it constantly. Especially if my ally is going ISU or IS-2 (has commanders with heavies). I seen Jagd always on maps that favor laning. Like redball and Rhzev and Port of hamburg. Basically maps that have low flanking potential and are elongated. Super heavies and stukas and werfers excel on such maps and are always seen en masse. That's from my experience.
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but sadly they forgget the ISU for years to touch. This thing is OP as hell. Its like a elefant and Brumbar had a baby. its great vs all targets. its faster than german ele and jgtiger ...has more rear armor, has great AI ...and even AA
IIRC the rear armor of isu was fixed
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i look everyday 1-3 stream from hiogh ranks ...mostly 2v2 or higher. u see jgtiger rarly...only one in 30 games or so. ...its because its shit and easy too lose. ´but an ISU u see it mostly every 3-4 game
Good, they're braindead as fuck and boring to play against.
Basically what the issues were with these in RL
Wait the IRL issues with these were that they weren't fun to use so the allies nerfed it?
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Wait the IRL issues with these were that they weren't fun to use so the allies nerfed it?
So to say. The Jagdtiger was extremely unreliable and often broke down. Also his low moblity made it prone to Airstrikes because of it's big Target size. Certainly not fun to use altough effective against allied armor. Allies quickly figured this out and destroyed most of the deployed ones. Only 3 survived the war so I'd say it is kinda accurate
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So to say. The Jagdtiger was extremely unreliable and often broke down. Also his low moblity made it prone to Airstrikes because of it's big Target size. Certainly not fun to use altough effective against allied armor. Allies quickly figured this out and destroyed most of the deployed ones. Only 3 survived the war so I'd say it is kinda accurate
If the game was IRL-ready then pretty much every Axis tank except P4s would regularly break down.
There is no reason to play Jagd or elefant in 2v2 unless the enemy fields an ISU152. ISU152 can also be countered by pretty much anything. It's just a semi-stationary cannon in HE mode and mediocre TD in AP mode. Problem is, people expect to blob against it and win. Some maps are heaven for ISU152, even in 2v2 where you have a lot of unobstructed vision to snipe (same goes for axis HTD)
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