Delete the Schwerer gun from the game

Alright, ill ask it this way. How is fighting a Schwerer HQ any different from a Bofors? It technically should be easier considering the bofors has brace, and allies certainly have no lack of proper arty to deal with it.

What exactly makes it that a Schwerer is more oppressive than a bofors on a cutoff?

Alright, ill ask it this way. How is fighting a Schwerer HQ any different from a Bofors? It technically should be easier considering the bofors has brace, and allies certainly have no lack of proper arty to deal with it.

What exactly makes it that a Schwerer is more oppressive than a bofors on a cutoff?

its not. Schwerer is easier to kill.
its just bad design

a bofors is harder to kill than a schwerer...and it cost only 1/4 fuel from the schwerer...and can brace...and can go into artillery mode...and can use groundattack...and you can chose the target (noo..dont shot the t34...shot the penal!)

Its been nerfed for a while and all you have to do is simply trick the bofors into bracing then launching real attack. Mg 42 guarding pak or 2, rakaten can out range it, ost mortar, liegs. Okw flame nades. All are things your going to build anyway so its like like you were forced into something you did not want to build. Brits have zero counter to you doing any of this maybe flank with an is and throw down area of denial arty then just wait go back to assaulting it they wont have a dingo car so lol. I didnt know building a schewer locks you out of a main light vehicle counter. I mean if i see a bofors id prolly just make 22s or a luchs and dance around other side of the map they have no snares do circles around 6pdr nothing they could do about it

jibberish

ye, brits up. no snares - gg

Alright, ill ask it this way. How is fighting a Schwerer HQ any different from a Bofors? It technically should be easier considering the bofors has brace, and allies certainly have no lack of proper arty to deal with it.

What exactly makes it that a Schwerer is more oppressive than a bofors on a cutoff?

You have 2 units

One is more expensive and better and you get via just teching up normally at 0 extra cost.

One is weaker and cheaper, you have to choose a specific sidetech that’s mutually exclusive with a meta unit and actually take time to build it with a unit.

In your mind, those 2 are the same. Cool.

axis op

What exactly makes it that a Schwerer is more oppressive than a bofors on a cutoff?

Schwerer doesn't take away from you army size, a bofors does. Schwerer has zero popcost

Ok give it brace if u want to give it pop cap

what does ullumululllululu have to do with what i wrote regarding katitof?

You quoted Katitof's response to Ullu......

what does what i wrote have to do with bofors and tanks being unlocked?

It's literally what Katitof was talking about......

Ok give it brace if u want to give it pop cap

Uhhh no thanks. Last time I checked the schwerer doesn't lock out any units.... It does the opposite....

You can't possibly believe that adding brace is an equivalent buff to the nerf of adding a popcost

Ukf Always has 14 units even if it locks out other , if not they would have 16

I think that okw should require pop to tech, it'll make them different from the other factions

Oh nooooo, the min 5 popcap cost. UK forces shiver in fear

meanwhile OKW having a good time waiting for KT because schwerer is gone

Also ~600mp for a gun that can't move sounds like a great idea

I actually think the schwere is fine tbh. It's easy enough to deal with. Yes it locks down territory, but it's at the risk of losing it. Risk/reward. We need to reward risk more not less.

Ukf Always has 14 units even if it locks out other , if not they would have 16

Okay? What does this have to do with anything? Bofors locks out meta-AEC, schwerer doesn't lock out anything

Total # of stock units on the roster is not at all what I was talking about? Why would anyone be talking about that?

I think that okw should require pop to tech, it'll make them different from the other factions

That's not what I said, but you should take a look at USF next time you launch the game... That wouldn't be unique at all

meanwhile OKW having a good time waiting for KT because schwerer is gone

What are you talking about?

We need to reward risk more not less.

There is 0 risk in putting a schwerer outside your base to lockdown cutoff and fuel, then rush 10min tank and overrun the opponent.

What's the risk? Opponent spending 720mp on AT guns and managing to kill it before your army arrives and forces them back to allow Spios to repair it in 30 seconds?

Oh nooooo, the min 5 popcap cost. UK forces shiver in fear

meanwhile OKW having a good time waiting for KT because schwerer is gone

Bofors is 10 pop.
1 pop drains 1,5mp from your income per minute.
10 pop drains 15.
Over 5 minutes its 75mp and it just keeps going up, its a dead weight when opponent just ignores it and if its too aggressively placed, its not going to pay up for itself as, being as weak as it is, it can be easily countered by anyone who isn't strategically challenged.

This is not taking into account you being completely bullied by LV, leading to loss of further mp and map control, because your most potent counter can not even be built anymore. But hey, you sit on that one fuel tho while losing everywhere else, because 20% of your early game population can't even move.

Schwerer is a relic of ancient OKW design that forced them to go forward with trucks and consolidate around tiny part of the map. It should never be free convenience post rework.

The only thing keeping it SOMEWHAT in check is the risk-reward factor of potentially overextending and losing it, but if you place it reasonably, congrats, your cutoff is now immune to contest for next 15-20 minutes.

im not arguing in favor of schwerer over bofors. id say remove both, boring unengaging gameplay ensues the moment you encounter either one of them

"i didnt read what you were saying but i troll answer anyway"

THE MINUTE 5 POP COST

AS IN: 10 POPCAP in MINUTE 5 dont matter