If USF would be bad in 1v1 no top level player would have chosen the faction in the tourney. The best players would not choose an inferior faction out of 3 Allied factions thats for sure.
Edit:
The games between Luvnest and Kimbo were super close btw. I really cant understand how these games can be seen as "proof" that USF is weak...
USF on life support
29 Jun 2020, 12:10 PM
#61
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29 Jun 2020, 12:49 PM
#62
Posts: 833
You dont give proper answer. Just make fun of logical proposals. USF is on life support. Thats obvious. 2 raketens block USF armor very much. Pak howie is only good thing that USF can field. And Axisfanboys still try to nerf it to ground. Proably they will get what they want. We need major buff for sherman bulldozer and maybe even stock roket arty for USF.
He's trolling bro just ignore him
But making rocket arty stock and putting the Scott doctrinal could be an interesting idea. It would be a nerf to USF to 1vs1 and a buff to team games. Maybe we would see more USF in mixed teams when players don't need to rely on a Soviet ally for nondoc arty. (Which is basically mandatory unless you use doctrinal crutches like priest)
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29 Jun 2020, 13:18 PM
#63
Posts: 148
As the last tournament showed USF are not as OP as some forum warriors last patch argued, actually it's the opposite. We hardly saw anyone pick USF and their weakness vs axis is just obvious in team games when a single jagdpanzer can shut down their entire tank roster.
I feel any further nerfs to core units like Jackson, Pak how or rifles will kill the faction like old Tommy nerfs did to Brits.
We already had the m20, howitzer carriage and Pershing removed from viability, these three should be prioritized with buffs so they actually become viable again
its not usf that is weak, it is UKF and SOV that is just better
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30 Jun 2020, 15:33 PM
#64
Posts: 124
its not usf that is weak, it is UKF and SOV that is just better
Only thing that save USF is stock arty .Or change major arty and make big improvements and make it like UKF arty. Problem is Soviets and UKF can punish blobs easily with UKF on base arty and Soviets with katty and at gun barrage. What USF got ? Shitty major arty that can easily that can be very easily avoided and make no real damage. Main problem with USF is clear.
30 Jun 2020, 15:50 PM
#65
Posts: 5279
Only thing that save USF is stock arty .Or change major arty and make big improvements and make it like UKF arty. Problem is Soviets and UKF can punish blobs easily with UKF on base arty and Soviets with katty and at gun barrage. What USF got ? Shitty major arty that can easily that can be very easily avoided and make no real damage. Main problem with USF is clear.
USF arty, especially major arty is actually quite good. Since it's a call in it doesn't get a range reduction when suppressed so he can say fuck you to strong points unlike ukf base arty.
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30 Jun 2020, 16:58 PM
#66
Posts: 306
Only thing that save USF is stock arty .Or change major arty and make big improvements and make it like UKF arty. Problem is Soviets and UKF can punish blobs easily with UKF on base arty and Soviets with katty and at gun barrage. What USF got ? Shitty major arty that can easily that can be very easily avoided and make no real damage. Main problem with USF is clear.
Why do peaple think just becouse usf wasnt picked in the 2vs2 tourney that it is on life support? Imagine there are 3 allied faction so in a 2vs2 one isnt played. Just becouse sov brit combo is superior doesnt mean usf is bad. It was played plenty in 1vs1 tournaments
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30 Jun 2020, 17:45 PM
#68
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All good, Axis OP.
30 Jun 2020, 18:00 PM
#69
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30 Jun 2020, 19:33 PM
#73
Posts: 131
5 mans grens are OP because it was the doc use to win 100% of the matches won by axis which represent 10% of all. Now USF is weak because none used it.
USF were not used because Soviet is very versatile but have weak early that everybody want to exploit with better inf and light vehicule, now remember what have UKF: an really early AT Light Vehicule and a powerfull infantry, USF doesn't have this AT light and so doesn't synergize as well as UKF.
Now stop this kind of reflexion without proper argument over what is really a problem and why. Because the first "forum warrior" who got the incredible idea to complain about "Axis OP" based on a tournament where they just got destroyed was you.
Makes a sweet change to happen upon some clear thinking of the common sense kind rather than the emotional or accountancy types usually brandished in these forums
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1 Jul 2020, 02:11 AM
#75
Posts: 2358
I respectfully disagree with the OP. The judgement is not wrong its just upside down IMO.
USF is not a weak faction, the new UKF buff coupled with SU is simply overshadowing it. It either requires less energy (wether it be skill or concentration), its less risky or simply can exploit axis weaknesses better.
So IMO nerfing jacksons/pak howies can be a solution still to bring USF into a less cheesy faction, after Axis power and UKF+SU power is leveled.
USF is not a weak faction, the new UKF buff coupled with SU is simply overshadowing it. It either requires less energy (wether it be skill or concentration), its less risky or simply can exploit axis weaknesses better.
So IMO nerfing jacksons/pak howies can be a solution still to bring USF into a less cheesy faction, after Axis power and UKF+SU power is leveled.
1 Jul 2020, 07:36 AM
#76
Posts: 1220
I respectfully disagree with the OP. The judgement is not wrong its just upside down IMO.
USF is not a weak faction, the new UKF buff coupled with SU is simply overshadowing it. It either requires less energy (wether it be skill or concentration), its less risky or simply can exploit axis weaknesses better.
So IMO nerfing jacksons/pak howies can be a solution still to bring USF into a less cheesy faction, after Axis power and UKF+SU power is leveled.
I dont think Jackson should be nerfed they already did it but about pack howie this thing need some rework but, other than that USF is in perfect spot.
What i want but is not really needed is unique vet1 in usf mortar something like single shell with phosphorus or flare or maybe supression barrage lol.
1 Jul 2020, 23:55 PM
#77
Posts: 124
I dont think Jackson should be nerfed they already did it but about pack howie this thing need some rework but, other than that USF is in perfect spot.
What i want but is not really needed is unique vet1 in usf mortar something like single shell with phosphorus or flare or maybe supression barrage lol.
Yep USF is in perfect spot for being axis funtoy. You guys know that keeping riflemans alive is harder than keeping grens alive(rifle nades,bundle nades). But no one cry about it. But there is only one unit in USF that can damage wall of axis paks and mgs. And you guys still trying too nerf it. LOL. Relic please remove USF from this game. There is no room for USF other than meme play.
2 Jul 2020, 01:07 AM
#78
Posts: 682
Yep USF is in perfect spot for being axis funtoy. You guys know that keeping riflemans alive is harder than keeping grens alive(rifle nades,bundle nades). But no one cry about it. But there is only one unit in USF that can damage wall of axis paks and mgs. And you guys still trying too nerf it. LOL. Relic please remove USF from this game. There is no room for USF other than meme play.
Sounds like you're crying about it
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16 Jul 2020, 05:06 AM
#80
Posts: 783
Yep USF is in perfect spot for being axis funtoy. You guys know that keeping riflemans alive is harder than keeping grens alive...
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