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They are perfectly designed, because compared to IS, they are an alternative option, not the ONLY option.
If you want a unit which is better as an assault unit or on the move, you use G43 Grens, 5man Grens, Assault Grenadiers or PG.
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It has nothing to do with assault or moving, it has everything to do with cover making them the only infantry that doesn't exist until they touch a bush. I think it could be toned down.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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It has nothing to do with assault or moving, it has everything to do with cover making them the only infantry that doesn't exist until they touch a bush. I think it could be toned down.
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Generally unit descriptions could be updated as I feel that it would help the game even more than patches.
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I agree, but the problem is most likely the volume of translation that needs to be done for different languages.
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Its a 200mp mainline infantry.
They are cheaper then partisans and fight incomparably better, while also scaling decently well into late game with their vet and upgrade.
You can count on osttruppen.
It has nothing to do with assault or moving, it has everything to do with cover making them the only infantry that doesn't exist until they touch a bush. I think it could be toned down.
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The ostruppen Lmg42 upgrade is a meme peashooter. Even if you would make it 30munies it still is pepehands tier upgrade that is barely noticeable. At the point when you get to T4 Allied vet3 infantry is just walking all over you anyways.
Just remove the meme Lmg42 and give these accountable bois 7th man upgrade unlockable at t4.
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The ostruppen Lmg42 upgrade is a meme peashooter. Even if you would make it 30munies it still is pepehands tier upgrade that is barely noticeable. At the point when you get to T4 Allied vet3 infantry is just walking all over you anyways.
Just remove the meme Lmg42 and give these accountable bois 7th man upgrade unlockable at t4.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Do you think the vet 3 allied infantry are walking all over ostroppen because they are significantly more expensive? Like cons are 20% more, rifles and Tommie are 40% more penals are 50% more... Is it possible that that might be a factor? Like I've noticed That a vet 3 Panther will beat the shit out of a Sherman and I can't for the life of me figure out why, maybe if you can figure out this ostroppen being beaten by units vastly more expensive with their maximum vet you could help me out with this one?
It costs 75% of gren LMG42 and has 75% of gren LMG42 DPS in cover.
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It costs 75% of gren LMG42 and has 75% of gren LMG42 DPS in cover.
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I should have pointed out that my issue was not with the cost effectiveness of OStruppen as you here implied but rather that in my opinion the long range LMG does not scale well with ostruppen. I have no issue with ostruppen as they are. I think another upgrade option would be more effective and better in line with the theme of this second hand unit.
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It's 50% the dps of a Gren LMG. Here's how it works:
- They always have a 50% accuracy penalty for all weapons they use.
- In cover they get a 300% accuracy bonus solely for their Kar98k's.
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They have 50% of gren LMG42 dps in and out of cover, like I've often mentioned before.
Honestly, they should just make the upgrade 60 muni, but also let it remove the out of cover debuff for the kars, because it's a pain to always keep them in cover in the lategame, while their effectiveness has sharply dropped off by then (facing 7 men Cons, double BAR riflemen and elites and the like).
It's 50% the dps of a Gren LMG. Here's how it works:
- They always have a 50% accuracy penalty for all weapons they use.
- In cover they get a 300% accuracy bonus solely for their Kar98k's.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Osttruppen are receiving adjustments to allow weapons they pick up to scale better. Their LMG's price is also being adjusted to better match its value.
Slot weapons now benefit from partial application of the cover bonus: Out-of-cover: -50% accuracy; In-cover: -25% accuracy
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