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What was the new implementation fixing then?
If the bug was that you could heal multiple squads with just one medkit due to improper implementation, the "fix" was really just implementing the glitch properly and reproducible?
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Nerfing the UKF medkits, making them the same as grenadiers, would be a better option imo.
Only the vet 1 requirement is something I don't understand, make it stock or an upgrade like the UKF. Change vet 1 into something else i.e. spread the bonuses of vet 2&3 more equally.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Sorry for the slight off-topic, but I am quite curious here:
What was the new implementation fixing then?
If the bug was that you could heal multiple squads with just one medkit due to improper implementation, the "fix" was really just implementing the glitch properly and reproducible?
Well, it actually does not matter. The current form of the med crate is okay. It encourages blobbing, but apart from that it works fine.
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But brits healing does not work same as ost healing.
Brits medkits are balanced around being primary healing method, with their medics being awkward and only supplemental.
With ost, its reversed, medics being main heal, medkits being just supplemental option and you still have 251 healing on top of that all.
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The healing could look like this:
1. It is free but you need to be outside of combat and manually click on the squad to heal.
2. You could also click on a crawling "killed" soldier and "add" it to your own squad for a manpower cost. This procedure would have no munition cost.
Such heal would be unique to ost not a copy of UKF heal. It could help with recrewing weapons after an encounter as ost often is left with 3 men squads. It wouldn't be too strong imo. Just a "nice touch" to existing healing. It still would be much less effective than UKF heal but still sort of "occupy" vet slot.
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I don't actually hate this, especially since the heals are not on pgrens anymore. It should only be able to zombify ost units and cons/penals (hilfswilliger!) it wouldn't seem right nabbing rifles or tommies or any elite troop
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UKF have healing on IS, a healing/reinforcing structure and Medics.
Only the healing on IS is far superior to that of Grenadiers. Actually UKF has very little to be jealous from Ostheer when it comes to healing.
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The healing could look like this:
1. It is free but you need to be outside of combat and manually click on the squad to heal.
2. You could also click on a crawling "killed" soldier and "add" it to your own squad for a manpower cost. This procedure would have no munition cost.
Such heal would be unique to ost not a copy of UKF heal. It could help with recrewing weapons after an encounter as ost often is left with 3 men squads. It wouldn't be too strong imo. Just a "nice touch" to existing healing. It still would be much less effective than UKF heal but still sort of "occupy" vet slot.
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The Ost medic bunker is a lot cheaper than the British forward assembly healing which is basically the same. This gives you a lot more freedom for build orders (two or three medic IS are needed at least).
Med bunker also doesn't cost popcap unlike medic squads or USF ambulance.
Apples and oranges
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The Ost medic bunker is a lot cheaper than the British forward assembly healing which is basically the same. This gives you a lot more freedom for build orders (two or three medic IS are needed at least).
Med bunker also doesn't cost popcap unlike medic squads or USF ambulance.
Apples and oranges
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Healing crawlers into a zombie entity of the gren squad would certainly be interesting, but it may be a lot of coding and outside the mod teams capabilities.
I like it, it would also have counterplay as allies can shoot or blow up crawlers.
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The Ost medic bunker is a lot cheaper than the British forward assembly healing which is basically the same. This gives you a lot more freedom for build orders (two or three medic IS are needed at least).
Med bunker also doesn't cost popcap unlike medic squads or USF ambulance.
Apples and oranges
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Its a bot more expensive for sure but also more encompassing. You can reinforce and arm your infantry from it and as vip said call in arty which can be very useful. It's kind of a number of things smooshed into one and priced accordingly. Regardless, mobile aoe heals for dirt cheap is somewhat stupid frankly.
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Forward assembly actually has a bigger hitbox that vipper conveniently ignored
The thing costs an arm and a leg to upgrade and gets blasted down pretty fast.
This is also why the arty ability you listed is useless, the short range and fragile nature of the FA makes it unusable because even a rak shooting at it will be out of range.
Not saying FA is bad, it's better than med bunker in team games. but as Brits I would swap it with med bunker in 1vs1 in a heartbeat when every 100mp here or there counts. Especially with the 450ish mp you need for Tommies upgrades.
Which goes in with why vipper was wrong and my original reply, Med bunker has the edge in 1s and FA has the edge in team games. Apples and oranges
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Forward assembly actually has a bigger hitbox that vipper conveniently ignored
The thing costs an arm and a leg to upgrade and gets blasted down pretty fast.
This is also why the arty ability you listed is useless, the short range and fragile nature of the FA makes it unusable because even a rak shooting at it will be out of range.
Not saying FA is bad, it's better than med bunker in team games. but as Brits I would swap it with med bunker in 1vs1 in a heartbeat when every 100mp here or there counts. Especially with the 450ish mp you need for Tommies upgrades.
Which goes in with why vipper was wrong and my original reply, Med bunker has the edge in 1s and FA has the edge in team games. Apples and oranges
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But brits healing does not work same as ost healing.
Brits medkits are balanced around being primary healing method, with their medics being awkward and only supplemental.
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