OH officer

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2020, 13:09 PMWiderstreit

At the moment the MP40 are a good boost for Osttruppen weak close-combat situations.

I never tought Officer needs a buff etc., it is a good unit as it is.

Edit: Better fix other stuff lol

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2020, 13:16 PMVipper

I doubt that it will continue to be with his time frame, the new UKF smgs units, Assault Engineer, PPSh conscripts, SVT Cosncripts, shock troops.

Even As. Grenadier that arrive earlier and can upgrade to an extra man will probably struggle.

At the very least the units could use reinforcement time and cost discount.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2020, 14:26 PMWiderstreit

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Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2020, 14:55 PMVipper

Generally I agree that other factions need more nerf than Ostheer buffs.

In this case the unit simply needs to be looked at and I simply pointing out that the other officer including the "new" UKF one are far superior.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2020, 15:39 PMSuperHansFan

Last time I checked ukf officer can't synergize with late game artillery with a ton of abilities

Try using the arty officer with a panzerwerfer, it's a complete beast. Brit officer is just a cqb squad with a charge ability.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 18:53 PMUnit G17

I see the OH officer more as an utility unit (like USF major) than a dedicated combat squad (like UKF officer), it's close range capability (+self buff ability) is just an extra, the focus should be on the very useful smoke arty, aura buff and arty call-ins. In other words, you are not meant to put this unit in the first row of combat.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2020, 21:38 PMLoopDloop

It's exactly like the UKF officer. That being said, UKF officer 30 muni to reinforce too? IMO both are fine at that cost since they're both very effective CQB squads though.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2020, 21:58 PMVipper

OH Officer was not built once in WC2019 so doubt that he is a "very effective CQB squad"

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 18:56 PMVipper

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The unit has an ability called "diversion" because it is meant to fight at the front line.

Is meant to be support unit it should be cheaper have and have less pop.

"Artillery Field Officer
The AF officer has received a major overhaul to allow this unit to not only provide a potent support role, but also act as a unit that can lead an assault to help breakthrough the enemy lines and push away infantry units at close range."

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2020, 00:19 AMthedarkarmadillo

Ostheer also have like 30 commanders and more have the very meta tiger tank than have the oh officer. You of all people should know that a doctrinal unit not seeing use doesn't mean much about the specific units balance but more that there are more attractive/accessible alternatives.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2020, 22:14 PMJibberJabberJobber

The OH Officer's firepower is fine at 240mp, but you'Il bleed dry if you try to use it in combat cause of the overpriced reinforcement cost. Assault Grenadiers cost 26mp as a comparison and have an additional MP40. I find it hard to justify getting it with how much Ostheer has to invest in anti infantry.

Maybe it would be better to let them start with Kar98k's to let it synergize better with the early composition of Grens and MG42's. Then let them swap to MP40's once they reach veterancy 2 with the RA reduction. Perhaps even let the Officer himself switch from a Luger to an MP40 at that point.

A different option would be to make Diversion allot cheaper at like 10 munitions.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2020, 08:53 AMoootto92

You could just turn it into pure Ostheer equivalent of Major and call it a day. Ostheer is currently only faction without access to forward retreat point. This would finally bring balance to this.

For example:
-250mp
-2 men with kar98s and commander with luger
-forward retreat point
-leig artillery call in within x range for y munies
-some fancy flavor ability to distinguish from equivalents of other factions (like passive 20m camouflage aura that hides vehicles after they hold still for 5s etc.)

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2020, 08:30 AMVipper

The difference here is that not only "Assault Support Doctrine" that combines a Tiger and an Officer did not even make it into the load out but even when the Officer was available in the Osttruppen doctrine it was not even build.

A unit that is "very effective CQB squad" would probably had been built.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2020, 15:04 PMthedarkarmadillo

I've never argued that it's a "very effective CQB squad" but not seeing it often isn't surprising. ...

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2020, 21:38 PMLoopDloop

It's exactly like the UKF officer. That being said, UKF officer 30 muni to reinforce too? IMO both are fine at that cost since they're both very effective CQB squads though.