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Well Relic + the modteam disagree because they've buffed it in 2 different patches this year
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The difference in price between buying 4 old maxims and 4 new maxims is just 80mp total (20 per). 80mp is not the main reason no one spams them anymore.
That would be their current performance + how much better penals and cons are than they were for most of the maxim spam days
How would this work? Like an upgrade on the unit itself? Or it replaces Maxim in the building?
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The Maxim has gotten so many changes over the years due to the unit being difficult to balance. The key thing here would be timing. Start with a trash MG but the unit itself could be upgraded into a better MG (DHSK) when Axis (Mostly OKW) have a better chance of dealing with it. Make the upgrade require T1 and T2 (or T3)and the Maxim could be upgraded for say 60 Ammo into the DHSK. By the time both Buildings are up, OKW should have its Medic Truck out to deal with it. This would also give T2 openings something to spend ammo on instead of ZIS Barrage Spamming or spamming mines (since you have nothing else to spam ammo on)
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The Maxim has gotten so many changes over the years due to the unit being difficult to balance. The key thing here would be timing. Start with a trash MG but the unit itself could be upgraded into a better MG (DHSK) when Axis (Mostly OKW) have a better chance of dealing with it. Make the upgrade require T1 and T2 (or T3)and the Maxim could be upgraded for say 60 Ammo into the DHSK. By the time both Buildings are up, OKW should have its Medic Truck out to deal with it. This would also give T2 openings something to spend ammo on instead of ZIS Barrage Spamming or spamming mines (since you have nothing else to spam ammo on)
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Japan:
-no unit preservation ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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The Maxim has gotten so many changes over the years due to the unit being difficult to balance. The key thing here would be timing. Start with a trash MG but the unit itself could be upgraded into a better MG (DHSK) when Axis (Mostly OKW) have a better chance of dealing with it. Make the upgrade require T1 and T2 (or T3)and the Maxim could be upgraded for say 60 Ammo into the DHSK. By the time both Buildings are up, OKW should have its Medic Truck out to deal with it. This would also give T2 openings something to spend ammo on instead of ZIS Barrage Spamming or spamming mines (since you have nothing else to spam ammo on)
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IMO if the balance team really wants to change the Maxim something like this could be considered.
Dhsk --> 50 cal clone with slightly worse suppression, offensive and mobile
Maxim --> Price to 280 MP, Build time extended, Pop Cap increased, MG34 suppression, arc and set up time but same DPS as current Maxim.
That way Maxim spam will be hard to pull off but getting 1 Maxim will still make sense in a combined arms playstyle as a defensive MG similar to what the MG34 does for OKW but Soviet theme 6 man crew.
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IMO if the balance team really wants to change the Maxim something like this could be considered.
Dhsk --> 50 cal clone with slightly worse suppression, offensive and mobile
Maxim --> Price to 280 MP, Build time extended, Pop Cap increased, MG34 suppression, arc and set up time but same DPS as current Maxim.
That way Maxim spam will be hard to pull off but getting 1 Maxim will still make sense in a combined arms playstyle as a defensive MG similar to what the MG34 does for OKW but Soviet theme 6 man crew.
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No Maxim buffs.
Maxim spam should continue getting the UKF emplacement treatment. Make it super hard to pull off so people don't need to play against it as often. It sucks the Maxim has to remain shit but if it was any better people would just spam it again which ruins games.
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It sucks the Maxim has to remain shit but if it was any better people would just spam it again
Actually I would test increasing the fuel cost and time of T2 so that maxim is delayed and thus it can not be spammed...
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Yeah I'd be good with that. They only just recently reduced it's fuel cost anyway right?
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For some strange and bizarre reason yea:
Support Weapon Kampaneya
The cost of the structure has been reduced to improve its pick rate over the Special Rifle Command as a starting building, and make back-teching for team weapons slightly cheaper.
Fuel cost from 20 to 15
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Yeah that confused me. They originally dropped it by 10 but decided that was too much. Might as well just kept it the same
If they buff Maxim they could definitely go above 20 if needed
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