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Cost of Grenade unlocked being Reduced for USF

16 Feb 2020, 21:03 PM
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Well this definitely isn't a bad thing. Of course I'd prefer to see these side techs eliminated entirely for USF and UKF for that matter.

I've heard some complaints about doing this. If someone could refresh my memory, but how much does OKW and OST pay to unlock grenades and weapon upgrades in addition to their teching?
16 Feb 2020, 21:13 PM
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OKW T4 total cost in fuel = 135

USF total cost for major in fuel = 120

Weapon racks fuel cost currently = 15F

So you're asking for OKWs fuel cost to be reduced as well right?
16 Feb 2020, 21:14 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Feb 2020, 21:03 PMCODGUY
.

I've heard some complaints about doing this. If someone could refresh my memory, but how much does OKW and OST pay to unlock grenades and weapon upgrades in addition to their teching?


Happy to help.

OKW has to pay for its truck in addition to putting it down, meaning you pay fuel twice.

Wehrmacht has to first put a building down and then tech, meaning you also pay fuel twice as Wehrmacht.

For USF/UKF, you click one button.
16 Feb 2020, 21:41 PM
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Excellent points. How come nobody else ever made this brilliant analysis before? We will immediately remove all side techs next patch.
16 Feb 2020, 21:52 PM
#5
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Almost everything is way too expensive with USF USF it's nice that something is being made cheaper even if it will probably have almost no effect.
16 Feb 2020, 21:52 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Feb 2020, 21:52 PMCODGUY
Almost everything is way too expensive with USF USF it's nice that something is being made cheaper even if it will probably have almost no effect.


Why do you play a faction you hate so much?
16 Feb 2020, 21:53 PM
#7
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Feb 2020, 21:52 PMLago


Why do you play a faction you hate so much?


I don't hate it. Just because it's the most challenging doesn't mean I hate it.
16 Feb 2020, 21:58 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Feb 2020, 21:53 PMCODGUY
I don't hate it. Just because it's the most challenging doesn't mean I hate it.


You don't seem to be familiar with how the matchmaker works.
16 Feb 2020, 22:01 PM
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Please stop making threads like this, CODGUY. I know you are better than this.
16 Feb 2020, 22:13 PM
#10
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Same price USF pays for extra squads.
16 Feb 2020, 22:35 PM
#11
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Please stop making threads like this, CODGUY. I know you are better than this.


:huhsign:
17 Feb 2020, 01:59 AM
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Please stop making threads like this, CODGUY. I know you are better than this.


He isn't, I've played vs him before.
17 Feb 2020, 02:02 AM
#13
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Feb 2020, 21:53 PMCODGUY


I don't hate it. Just because it's the most challenging doesn't mean I hate it.


At your current skill level it's going to be challenging for you to beat anyone using any faction.
17 Feb 2020, 02:11 AM
#14
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No?

Grades/Racks could be removed, but the cost of teching would need to go up a lot to compensate. USF already has the cheapest T4 tech in the game (if rushed), so it needs those road-bumps to slow them down.

Current tech costs






FactionBasic T4 MPBasic T4 FAll T4 MPAll T4 F
OST680210970225
OKW5401751310265
USF4901751290270
Sov6401851355240


USF is the cheapest faction to 'rush' to T4, but also roughly tied (+5F, -20mp) for most expensive to get every tech. USF also starts with +10 fuel more than OKW (for some reason).


OKW T4 total cost in fuel = 135
USF total cost for major in fuel = 120


Unless I'm mistaken, you're off by a bit.

OKW T0 -> T4, Skip T2 (Mech, since its more expensive))
trucks 2x: 70mp/15f
T1: 200mp/25f
T3: 100mp/60f
PA: 100mp/60f

Total: 540mp/175f


USF T0 -> T4, skip either LT/Capt (same price)
T1 (LT): 250mp/35f
T3 (Mjr): 190mp/120f

Total: 440mp/155f

edit: I missed the 50mp/20f mechanized unlock, so it's actually 490mp/175f
17 Feb 2020, 02:27 AM
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Unless I'm mistaken, you're off by a bit.

OKW T0 -> T4, Skip T2 (Mech, since its more expensive))
trucks 2x: 70mp/15f
T1: 200mp/25f
T3: 100mp/60f
PA: 100mp/60f

Total: 540mp/175f

USF T0 -> T4, skip either LT/Capt (same price)
T1 (LT): 250mp/35f
T3 (Mjr): 190mp/120f

Total: 440mp/155f


You need either a vehicle sidetech or both LT and CPT to tech Major, so 175 fuel at least.
17 Feb 2020, 03:15 AM
#16
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Why don't you just play those factions and find out how much it costs?
17 Feb 2020, 03:20 AM
#17
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You need either a vehicle sidetech or both LT and CPT to tech Major, so 175 fuel at least.


Not sure how I missed that. Yea, +50mp/20f to those numbers.
17 Feb 2020, 04:35 AM
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He isn't, I've played vs him before.


I don't remember ever playing you. Not saying I didn't but I don't recall.
17 Feb 2020, 08:34 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Feb 2020, 21:03 PMCODGUY
Well this definitely isn't a bad thing. Of course I'd prefer to see these side techs eliminated entirely for USF and UKF for that matter.

I've heard some complaints about doing this. If someone could refresh my memory, but how much does OKW and OST pay to unlock grenades and weapon upgrades in addition to their teching?


Others and I have posted tech costs both for rushing as well as full tech costs and other constellations in multiple threads now. USF pays similar amounts to OKW and UKF. Factions, especially the Allied ones, have slight timing differences depending on how many side techs you go for.

USF does not pay more, stop propagating something different unless you can proof it with numbers.
17 Feb 2020, 08:41 AM
#20
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Teching for stuff is bad, we should get everything free.

I'm not trying to be rude, but this is what I got out of OP. i've not really had any problems with getting nades. I'm not doing this out of malice, i'm just saying you come across as a salty person and you need to take a break, and just go do something else for a while. Don't stop, just take a break.

I don't know, i play weird yes, i'm not the best player, nor am i the worst. But i've always felt like it helped me prioritise what i'm doing in game.

I don't do build orders, i don't do what your average player would do, aside from the basics, but i know that "teching for grenades" isn't as big as an issue as you put it out to be.
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