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140mu to kill one mg is is quite expensive in early game but I can accept that because how usefull this ability is in late game.
Then it should be unlock with Major...
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There really isn't any reason to change the I&R arty (fun fact, it is basically the same exact strike as the 155MM in the WC51, which nobody is complaining about.) For the munition it costs, you're just not going to see it early game, and even if you did, it's not nearly as amazing as this thread seems to make it out to be. Locking it behind Major is unnecessary as well as counter-intuitive given the very description of the unit being "authorized to call down artillery strikes".
I can understand Recon Support is a bit buff at the moment, but it definitely isn't because of the I&R arty.
140mu to kill one mg is is quite expensive in early game but I can accept that because how usefull this ability is in late game.
It would be nice if they nerf grayhound a little bit and put him in cp3 or after full officer tech because right now its too late in 4v4 mode
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In my view, the Lieutenant needs to have elite bazookas. This would help out a lot in the USF AT department,
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All zooks should be elite, I dont even bother getting zooks unless they are on a ranger or paratrooper.
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This is the perfect example of power creep
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Agreed with replacing the airdropped combat group with 340mp Paratroopers.
The Greyhound also needs to be 3CP.
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Greyhoud's tech requirement is already lower then most LVs, 3CP is unacceptable.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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In my view, the Lieutenant needs to have elite bazookas. This would help out a lot in the USF AT department,
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It does not penetrate sometimes even Luchs.
And the panzershrek can easily penetrate the pershing.
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PLS check stat before posting the claim is simply false.
Shreck has 160 fer penetration and Persing has 270 armor thus it has 59% chance to penetrate which I would describe as "easily".
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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PLS check stat before posting the claim is simply false.
Bazooka has 110 fer penetration and luch has 55 armor thus it will always penetrate.
PLS check stat before posting the claim is simply false.
Shreck has 160 fer penetration and Persing has 270 armor thus it has 59% chance to penetrate which I would describe as "easily".
Finally keep in mind that hand held weapons to deflection damage so they do not need to penetrate to cause damage.
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Should I provide video proof? What bazookas sometimes dont penetrate the luchs??...
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Cluster Bomb
-Added 1 additional second to delay before the plane arrives.
Seem to be in a good direction.
Since these change are made parallel with Ostheer fragmentation bombing maybe bring more inline CP and cost. 7 vs 10 and 110 vs 180.
In addition since you are looking at instant deletion abilities why not have a look at IR Pathinders artillery barrage. The ability is way too strong/expensive for it timing and undodgeable by Paks.
Why not simply replace it with a cheap mortar barrage with a cost around 60.
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The problem of that pathfinder barrage is that you need a lot of muntion, forcing you to avoid bar upgrades if you want to use it on eraly game. And on early in the majority of map a decent player doesn't clump the units. So you can trade 150 munition , or 300 if you didn't wipe the mg the first time, only to kill one support weapon. It's really strong , but when you on early miss an mg or pak you will delay any kind of upgrade for so long. And you need at least 2 pathfinder units to use it more often. So is an high risk high reward strat , if you nerf pathfinder's barrage, this commander will probabily no longer be used over a standard airborne commander. The best way to nerf it is an higher delay time (so lowering the chance of an instant wipe) in exchange of a pretty decent munition cost reduction to make this arty more spammable. Cluster and combat group nerf is enough for now probably.
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