Panzerschrecks - state of balance

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 11:06 AMKieselberg

What is your opinion on the current state of the shreks?

I fell compared to zookas and the fact, that only pgrens can get them, they underpeform. You have to sacrifice one p gren squat, which becomes utterly useless vs. everything else and get only a medicore units which cant even 2 shot flak hts t70 or stuarts. Thus they get kited to deadt while not being a real threat on the battlefield.

Rear echelons with double zookas and 5 man are more sticky and deal more damage, without suffering a heavy mp bleed.

In my opinion, shreks need a slight range buff, so they can be acutally useful in fighting at least the early alli vehicles, while not being to strong.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jan 2020, 09:04 AMTh3DankDuck

What no they perfrom good better then piats bazookas etc. And just bc one unit can get them then look at OKW they often blob panzerschrecks and easily destroy big tanks same goes for bazookas and piats are ok too. They do not underperform they do better then the things that is compared to that.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jan 2020, 20:04 PMMazianni

Let's just make Panzershreks a copy of the USF standard bazooka in every way if this is considered a problem.

I can't wait to see the Shreks UP threads that follow.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jan 2020, 20:30 PMAlphrum

allies generally have lower armour tanks, bazookas stats with its ROF will be very deadly.

Personally, i just wish Pshreks was more accessible or at least bit more accurate

Jump back to quoted post9 Jan 2020, 20:30 PMAlphrum

allies generally have lower armour tanks, bazookas stats with its ROF will be very deadly.

Personally, i just wish Pshreks was more accessible or at least bit more accurate

Jump back to quoted post9 Jan 2020, 09:04 AMTh3DankDuck

What no they perfrom good better then piats bazookas etc. And just bc one unit can get them then look at OKW they often blob panzerschrecks and easily destroy big tanks same goes for bazookas and piats are ok too. They do not underperform they do better then the things that is compared to that.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 21:48 PMIncendiaryRounds

I've asked for that option for all AT squads to have the option to hold fire 2 years ago, but Relic obviously doesn't care. Same with a manual reload button on all HMGs so they can fire a full burst. Relic doesn't care.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 16:45 PMKiwiBirb

When comparing Zooks to Shrecks i find that zooks are far better early game, as they still zone out light vehicles while costing 160mp! less

However, Shrecks are far more effective late game due to their high penetration, which shows in their cost.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 11:20 AMT.R. Stormjäger

Ostheer Pioneers should be able to buy a single panzershrek with 60 muni, able to get it with a sweeper but not with a flamer.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jan 2020, 20:42 PMKatitof

Handheld AT weapons except AT rifles are inaccurate specifically to allow light vehicle play.
They all were more accurate in the past and it made LV plays outside of T70 completely irrelevant and pointless.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2020, 20:29 PMKurobane

Hold Fire for AT Weapons (Such as Panzershrek, Bazooka etc) is actually pretty easy to implement. Not sure why it hasn't been done yet.

Jump back to quoted post27 Mar 2020, 02:51 AMJilet

Good days of mediums theey were...
Nowadays we only see LV into heavies sadly.

Edit:
OOF SORRY FOR NECRO.

Jump back to quoted post27 Mar 2020, 03:19 AMKasarov

It is actually not as simple as you would think.

Prioritise Vehicles works fine for PAK40, 43, ZiS, 6lb, and M1 just fine. However, the mechanics simply stop working when garrisoned (e.g., garrisoned raketen will target infantry, and after exiting will continue to ignore Prioritise Vehicles). This holds true for AT infanry squads as well. It would work up until the point when they garrison structures.

Additionally, the ability takes up a precious slot on the command card. The team would need to clear up space for every infantry squad to make room for it, and not all infantry has the space to spare. This becomes very difficult when the team tries to standardize ability locations on the command card, especially due to hidden doctrinal abilities. Look at how many abilities UKF sappers have (or Soviet Conscripts have doctrinally) for example.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2020, 11:38 AMMusti

BTW. 2 PGren models have plenty of AI DPS,

Jump back to quoted post27 Mar 2020, 04:08 AMShadowLinkX37

Was Kiwi, and at least it's on the same patch so it's still semi relevent.