Bayeux and Novgorod Outskirts ruin 1v1
11 Apr 2020, 01:30 AM
#81
Posts: 888
Bayuex would be better if it were smaller. Novogorad is just garbage like all the winter maps.
11 Apr 2020, 04:05 AM
#82
Posts: 1820 | Subs: 2
Bayeux for 2v2?
11 Apr 2020, 18:18 PM
#83
Posts: 888
What do you guys not like about these two maps?
Early map veto stats show:
Code
15 Crossroads : 2272
14 Langreskaya : 2197
13 Faymonville Approach : 2186
12 Kholodny Ferma (Summer) : 2124
11 Crossing in the Woods : 2033
10 Bayeux : 1950
9 Vilshanka : 1938
8 Lost Glider : 1905
7 2p_novgorodoutskirts : 1890
6 Rechnaya Pereprava : 1819
5 Nexus : 1794
4 Angoville : 1748
3 Arnhem Checkpoint : 1712
2 Ladoga Karelia : 1387
LOL those top two are by far my favorite!
25 Apr 2020, 01:22 AM
#84
Posts: 155
How is arhem one of the least vetoed map ? Wtf
25 Apr 2020, 01:48 AM
#85
Posts: 84
Sad so see novgorod go, when we've had years of lost glider and arnhem. Even more frustrating for me is that its the better map our of the new ones. Im looking forward to the patch that introduces amilly fields and molenweg though
25 Apr 2020, 06:31 AM
#86
Posts: 2272 | Subs: 1
how was the map called which completeley consisted if a giant park full of scuplptures in the middle?
25 Apr 2020, 11:37 AM
#87
Posts: 570 | Subs: 1
Honestly i used to seriously dislike novogrod, but after playing it a bit more i came to like it, my only real gripe with it is the garrisons in the southern cutt of and northern cut off. So ima go with elpern on this one, Shame it has to go when there are worse map (Looks at arnhem)
25 Apr 2020, 11:43 AM
#88
Posts: 3588 | Subs: 3
Honestly i used to seriously dislike novogrod, but after playing it a bit more i came to like it, my only real gripe with it is the garrisons in the southern cutt of and northern cut off. So ima go with elpern on this one, Shame it has to go when there are worse map (Looks at arnhem)
+1
25 Apr 2020, 20:27 PM
#89
Posts: 155
Why is arnhem never getting removed lol
25 Apr 2020, 20:30 PM
#90
Posts: 3588 | Subs: 3
25 Apr 2020, 21:18 PM
#91
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
I think both maps are OK. It's nice to have a bigger map in rotation, it favors mobility play and makes units likr halftracks and medium armor shine. A nice change of pace compared to for example Crossing in the woods where a KT needs to drive for 5 seconds to cover 2 VPs.
26 Apr 2020, 00:22 AM
#92
Posts: 2149 | Subs: 2
Thanks to all you guys saying Novgorod is not necessarily NOvGOrOD (trademark AE).
When the map came out it was getting decent plays. That quickly dropped to only getting a few plays. That told me something about the map was not fun to play. Since I dont play 1v1, I assumed I just missed some major piece.
Since then with some advice from you guys and watching some replays, we got some things changed around. But at this point I am not 100% sure it will be any better received. And everyone has already had to veto it for 4 months. The last thing I want is to make you have to veto it for another 6-12 months. Especially when there are new 1v1 maps out there that show a lot of promise to be FUN.
So I am not against the NEW Novgorod being updated in automatch. I am against it staying if it means one of the new maps will not be used. I would rather it get deleted and a NEW map take its place. Maybe dumping Arnhem for Novgorod is a possibility? That is up to Relic, Sturmpanther, you guys, etc.
When the map came out it was getting decent plays. That quickly dropped to only getting a few plays. That told me something about the map was not fun to play. Since I dont play 1v1, I assumed I just missed some major piece.
Since then with some advice from you guys and watching some replays, we got some things changed around. But at this point I am not 100% sure it will be any better received. And everyone has already had to veto it for 4 months. The last thing I want is to make you have to veto it for another 6-12 months. Especially when there are new 1v1 maps out there that show a lot of promise to be FUN.
So I am not against the NEW Novgorod being updated in automatch. I am against it staying if it means one of the new maps will not be used. I would rather it get deleted and a NEW map take its place. Maybe dumping Arnhem for Novgorod is a possibility? That is up to Relic, Sturmpanther, you guys, etc.
26 Apr 2020, 05:52 AM
#93
Posts: 3053
I'm not a fan of Bayeux at all. Can't really speak as to Novgorod since I've only played it like 3 times but Bayeux is disgustingly south-sided, with the massive hedge on the left fuel (supposed to be north's fuel) that is just begging for an smg unit to hold it from north. Good luck if an OKW gets the good fortune to start south. Meanwhile there's a massive house on north's cutoff with a south side entrance only for some reason, and south's fuel has a hedge you have to push through as north.
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26 Apr 2020, 06:17 AM
#94
Posts: 10
When the map came out it was getting decent plays. That quickly dropped to only getting a few plays. That told me something about the map was not fun to play. Since I dont play 1v1, I assumed I just missed some major piece.
Probably also worth considering that winter/snow maps tend to tank performance on lower end PCs, and some people veto them because they can't play the game smoothly on those maps. Just because the play rate is lower than expected doesn't mean people hate playing on the map.
26 Apr 2020, 10:31 AM
#95
Posts: 1467 | Subs: 4
Arnhem is one of the least vetoed for a few reasons. It’s an old map (the evil you know). It has no snow (I swear 90% of the community is playing on a communal toaster). It is a absuable.
26 Apr 2020, 10:36 AM
#96
Posts: 1273
There are some maps which have been on my veto for ages, and they shall never be unvetoed. 
26 Apr 2020, 11:11 AM
#97
Posts: 84
There are some maps which have been on my veto for ages, and they shall never be unvetoed.And I guess it's this kind of mentality that makes map updates a waste of time?
26 Apr 2020, 11:17 AM
#98
Posts: 3588 | Subs: 3
I think a lot more people would be playing Novgorod if it was a summer map.
Which sucks because I love winter maps but muh Lelic coding.
Which sucks because I love winter maps but muh Lelic coding.
27 Apr 2020, 05:25 AM
#99
Posts: 1467 | Subs: 4
And I guess it's this kind of mentality that makes map updates a waste of time?
It is exactly why. Most players will not play an updated map or hell, even new maps. One of the peculiar things you’ll notice is the few people that are playing new maps (I’m talking week or release) have extremely higher than average spectators. People will not risk their epeen (playercard), and when they finally do, if thy lose on it, it’s trash, win, it’s great! Very few people are able to get based these initial emotional responses of a win or loss so they will just outright avoid them entirely. Leading to old maps most people seem to universally hate being in the most played still.
Also in replying on mobile, so this is not all of what there is to say, and it’s most likely ramble-y.
27 Apr 2020, 14:03 PM
#100
Posts: 148
pls delete bayeux novgorod karelia glider arnhem and angoville and update xroads winter and everything will be fine
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