Heavy Tank CP

Jump back to quoted post19 Nov 2019, 20:24 PMLago

The JPIV 'counters' tank destroyers with its Vet 1 and Vet 2 bonuses: Vet 1 gives it cloak so it always gets the first shot off, and Vet 2 lets it take another hit.

Those are both big advantages in a slugging match.

Jump back to quoted post19 Nov 2019, 20:35 PMKatitof

I'd say add 20-30 fuel to ALL heavies and the problem will solve itself.

Heavies are still viable stat wise, but they are no longer no-brainer choice over 2 meds.

Jump back to quoted post20 Nov 2019, 07:12 AMMMX

raising the fuel cost, as suggested before, seems the most logical choice for me, too. this would also neatly avoid the dilemma of a cp-increase delaying heavies too much in team games as compared to 1v1s.

Jump back to quoted post21 Nov 2019, 15:50 PMT.R. Stormjäger

I like this as well. If a super heavy is like 300 fuel you’d have to stall a hell of a lot more than now and losing it would be a deathblow.

Alternatively, what about raising the MP cost? What if the Tiger costs 1000mp and 230 fuel? You’d have to bank a lot of manpower to get that thing on the field and if your opponent bleeds you enough you’ll never be able to afford it.

Jump back to quoted post22 Nov 2019, 17:09 PM13greed47

maybe a less drastic option for me would be cd start when the tank is destroy and it could be longer 2-3 mins

Jump back to quoted post22 Nov 2019, 17:31 PMFarlion

I'll say it again, Heavies are just a symptom of the problem, not the root of it.

The real problem is that mediums are too easily shut down by TD or Pak spam. For Axis, the additional problem is that the Tiger is the only reliable counter to the IS2 because the Panther is useless.

Jump back to quoted post22 Nov 2019, 17:54 PMMazianni

Wouldn't nerfing the counters to heavy tanks just make heavy tanks even more dominant? I tend to think TDs and ATGs are in the oppressive state they are now principally because they have to be able to counter heavy tanks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2019, 06:29 AMmrgame2

Like i asked. Reduce the range.

60TD to 55TD
70TD to 60TD

ATG remains at 60.
Except OKW, Jp4 at 60, Rak at 55 remains, for variety, and since JP4 is so expensive with weak pen.

At least, maps are less zoned out. Allow freer combined arms tactics. Certain units like Brumbar may become useful without even touching it!

Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2019, 09:28 AMmrgame2

Why no? 55 is still outta return fire range.
60 is overboard and lazy.

When i play Jackson, i shoot a p4 from way out and the poor axis guy seem so confused.